Originally Posted by Bowser:
"Two dozen fighters against a stupid amount of Star Destroyers?"
What do you want to bet they found Palpatine's old fleet floating around in the Unknown Regions and are going there to steal it?
The other idea I've seen is that Rey going dark is a red herring, that the fight sequences between Rey and Kylo are red herrings, and the movie ends up being Rey and Kylo/Resistance and First Order eventually fighting together against Palpatine's forces, as they return from the Unknown Regions.
Seems a little convenient, but we know what they're giving away in trailers is probably a smokescreen. [Reply]
Some of this ties in with spoilers I have heard from several sources, but other parts sound too disjointed and unfocused. Of course, if we take a moment to remember who we're dealing with here( JJ, Lucas, Disney ), then it's possible that the story COULD be this lopsided.
So the lore is that the Empire had moved a huge portion of its production to the unknown region before "New Hope" and have building up ever since. This was done by palpatine as a safety net if they ever had to remake the empire. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
So the lore is that the Empire had moved a huge portion of its production to the unknown region before "New Hope" and have building up ever since. This was done by palpatine as a safety net if they ever had to remake the empire.
After Endor, not before. He's supposed to be bedridden in this movie, too old to get around and on his way out. Wants Rey and Kylo to rule his rebuilt empire together. Talks about a "force diad" that allows two people strong in the force to achieve a greater power together than they could apart. Explains that he and Vader were supposed to comprise one but could not due to Vader's failure at Mustafar and his inability to completely let go of Anakin Skywalker.
Wants Ren to bring Rey to him so that he can turn her. Rey sees a dark vision of herself when she touches an artifact that belongs to Palpatine. ( Trailer ).
Leaves Ren for dead on the ruins of the death star after stabbing him in the chest with his own saber. Ren sees vision of Solo who tells him it's never too late to return to the light. Ren discards his crossguard saber and resumes being Ben Solo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
After Endor, not before. He's supposed to be bedridden in this movie, too old to get around and on his way out. Wants Rey and Kylo to rule his rebuilt empire together. Talks about a "force diad" that allows two people strong in the force to achieve a greater power together than they could apart. Explains that he and Vader were supposed to comprise one but could not due to Vader's failure at Mustafar and his inability to completely let go of Anakin Skywalker.
Wants Ren to bring Rey to him so that he can turn her. Rey sees a dark vision of herself when she touches an artifact that belongs to Palpatine. ( Trailer ).
Leaves Ren for dead on the ruins of the death star after stabbing him in the chest with his own saber. Ren sees vision of Solo who tells him it's never too late to return to the light. Ren discards his crossguard saber and resumes being Ben Solo.
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
After Endor, not before. He's supposed to be bedridden in this movie, too old to get around and on his way out. Wants Rey and Kylo to rule his rebuilt empire together. Talks about a "force diad" that allows two people strong in the force to achieve a greater power together than they could apart. Explains that he and Vader were supposed to comprise one but could not due to Vader's failure at Mustafar and his inability to completely let go of Anakin Skywalker.
Wants Ren to bring Rey to him so that he can turn her. Rey sees a dark vision of herself when she touches an artifact that belongs to Palpatine. ( Trailer ).
Leaves Ren for dead on the ruins of the death star after stabbing him in the chest with his own saber. Ren sees vision of Solo who tells him it's never too late to return to the light. Ren discards his crossguard saber and resumes being Ben Solo.
Knights of Ren missing from TLJ as they were on mission to find a device belonging to Vader called the "wayfinder", or simply an object that points the way to Palpatine's unknown regions hideout. Palps has one, Vader had one. This is the object Rey touches which causes her to see the dark vision of herself.
Palps wants Rey turned bad as she is his granddaughter. Parents did not abandon her, they were murdered for hiding her. The ship in the vision belongs to the person tasked to hide her on Jakku.
Gallius Rax was discovered by Palpatine on Jakku years before the first and second death stars. Palpatine tasks him with setting the "failsafe plan" in motion in the unknown regions. Each new star destroyer in that fleet is equipped with death star technology and has the ability to obliterate a planet.
