Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
I've been sick since last Tuesday. Antigen covid test Wednesday, PCR Friday, antigen Sunday. All negative.
There's definitely something out there competing with Covid right now.
I think I'm on the mend but doctor called me in an antibiotic and a low dose steroid because it feels like it's kind of transitioning into bronchitis. This is the first time I've truly been sick since covid started.
Originally Posted by TLO:
I've been sick since last Tuesday. Antigen covid test Wednesday, PCR Friday, antigen Sunday. All negative.
There's definitely something out there competing with Covid right now.
I think I'm on the mend but doctor called me in an antibiotic and a low dose steroid because it feels like it's kind of transitioning into bronchitis. This is the first time I've truly been sick since covid started.
Take care of yourselves
My best friend and his family have had this. He's a pharmacist, they all had covid last year and he has been vaxed but they did some of the antigen tests they have at their clinic just to see.
Had a close friends grandfather pass yesterday morning. Had been in the ICU for a week or two with it. In his mid to late 80's. Had been double vaxed, no booster. He was doing some pretty heavy immuno compressing drugs for something, not sure what. [Reply]
This is a good article in Smithsonian Magazine that explains how immunization and waning effectiveness works. It's written in a simple language that a non-medical lug like me can understand.
My wife’s cousins husband died tonight. Friend of mine since college. 52. Unvaccinated. Been on vent over 2 weeks. Community crushed. Leaves 3 kids and his wife. Some still don’t believe in the vaccine regardless of how many die before their eyes that they know. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
This is a good article in Smithsonian Magazine that explains how immunization and waning effectiveness works. It's written in a simple language that a non-medical lug like me can understand.
Originally Posted by TLO:
I've been sick since last Tuesday. Antigen covid test Wednesday, PCR Friday, antigen Sunday. All negative.
There's definitely something out there competing with Covid right now.
I think I'm on the mend but doctor called me in an antibiotic and a low dose steroid because it feels like it's kind of transitioning into bronchitis. This is the first time I've truly been sick since covid started.
Take care of yourselves
This is the #1 reason why I am so glad to not be back in the office and around people. I was always sick once or twice a year with bronchitis. Barely have had a sniffle in almost 2 years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I've been sick since last Tuesday. Antigen covid test Wednesday, PCR Friday, antigen Sunday. All negative.
There's definitely something out there competing with Covid right now.
I think I'm on the mend but doctor called me in an antibiotic and a low dose steroid because it feels like it's kind of transitioning into bronchitis. This is the first time I've truly been sick since covid started.
Take care of yourselves
Towards the end of the summer we were starting to see quite a few adults with RSV. Couple friends of mine were diagnosed with it. Normally we see kids around this time with but starting around June/July we were starting to see kids with it. Just throwing that out there cause it's something more associated with kids than adults but have seen it more so now than in the past. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LTL:
Towards the end of the summer we were starting to see quite a few adults with RSV. Couple friends of mine were diagnosed with it. Normally we see kids around this time with but starting around June/July we were starting to see kids with it. Just throwing that out there cause it's something more associated with kids than adults but have seen it more so now than in the past.
My PCR test was a combo flu, covid, RSV. All negative. Whatever it is has knocked me on my ass pretty well though [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
My PCR test was a combo flu, covid, RSV. All negative. Whatever it is has knocked me on my ass pretty well though
I too got something right before Thanksgiving that wasn’t Covid that Turned bronchial and I’m just now shaking it off.
Also my 72 year old dad and disabled sister were sick so I went to his house and tested him and immediately the test came back Covid positive. I had them go to an official testing center and confirm the results and then got them a couple seats for the Regeneron treatment.
That’s been 4 days ago but all indications they are starting to improve. When I first tested my dad he looked like he was dying, no color in his face just very sick. Since the Regeneron they are both almost back to normal outside of a lingering cough. Both unvaccinated because of freaking politics. I tried to educate him, and barely got him to let me test him for Covid. He’s since been awakened that this is real. Stubbornness has killed so many.
They are not 100% out of the woods yet, but I’m certain the Regeneron treatment is the only reason they have a good chance of surviving this. They were both so sick prior to treatment.
If you or anyone you know has Covid and is heading the wrong direction and high risk please urge them to get the treatment. Could save their life. Btw all Regeneron seats were filled in KC proper so we found rural ones that could treat them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
This is the #1 reason why I am so glad to not be back in the office and around people. I was always sick once or twice a year with bronchitis. Barely have had a sniffle in almost 2 years.
There's a major downside to this as well though... [Reply]
Just got off the phone with my PMD who called to let me know she is retiring. She's been my PMD for 30 years. I asked her if she recommended me for #3 covid booster and she said, "Yes I do and I truly believe we will be taking boosters every 6 months for the foreseeable future." [Reply]