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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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evenfall 12:00 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
There you go again...

The superior team isn't going to care. MU football has bigger things to worry about besides possibly getting upset in KU's Superbowl at Arrowhead. KU basketball has bigger things to worry about besides getting upset in Columbia on the last weekend of the season or in the Big 12 Tournament. If KU football is ever relevant again and they find themselves playing ISU and MO State every week while MU is a top 15 school playing Alabama and LSU, then sure, I'll envy that... I envy just about every football program out there these days. Except Northern Illinois. We got you good!
So why are you guys so butthurt? :-)
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Mr. Plow 12:03 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
At least you won't have to worry about suffering the indignity of playing in a crappy bowl. You're like a guy in the unemployment line making fun of the security guard for not being a real cop.

Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.
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Saul Good 12:03 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
I'd make fun of that guy if he was acting like a real cop, though. :-)
Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.
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Saul Good 12:08 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.
Well, plow, Missouri's just not that into you.
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Pants 12:08 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.
Nope, you're confusing me with someone else.
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Bearcat 12:09 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by evenfall:
So why are you guys so butthurt? :-)
:-)

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.

:-)
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Bearcat 12:11 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.
He's probably been getting bullied all his life, but it's never been his fault... and one day he'll show 'em.

One day.
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kstater 12:13 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
There you go again...

. MU football has bigger things to worry about besides possibly getting upset in KU's Superbowl at Arrowhead. K
Disagree. Mizzou wil likely need to win that game to get bowl eligible. Assuming they're not already eliminated.
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Bearcat 12:21 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
Disagree. Mizzou wil likely need to win that game to get bowl eligible. Assuming they're not already eliminated.
Oh, I meant in a typical year, when they normally would have 8-10 wins going into that game...
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Saul Good 12:25 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
He's probably been getting bullied all his life, but it's never been his fault... and one day he'll show 'em.

One day.
That's pretty much how it went down.

Kansas fan: Hey Mr. Plastic badge, why aren't you a real cop? Couldn't get a job on the force? If you were worth a shit, you'd be a police officer.

Security guard: Actually, today's my last day here. Just got hired onto the NYPD.

Kansas Fan: Ooh, look at Mr. Tough Guy. He's going to be a cop because he got picked on and wants the power trip.

Security Guard: Don't hurt your back moving those goalposts around.
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Mr. Plow 12:29 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Oh, I meant in a typical year, when they normally would have 8-10 wins going into that game...
Typical year as in 8 times in 30 years - which, I have to say is much better than KU's 5 times in 30 years.
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Pants 12:30 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
That's pretty much how it went down.

Kansas fan: Hey Mr. Plastic badge, why aren't you a real cop? Couldn't get a job on the force? If you were worth a shit, you'd be a police officer.

Security guard: Actually, today's my last day here. Just got hired onto the NYPD.

Kansas Fan: Ooh, look at Mr. Tough Guy. He's going to be a cop because he got picked on and wants the power trip.

Security Guard: Don't hurt your back moving those goalposts around.
Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm a cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're. If you weren't, you wouldn't be talking to me right now!
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Mr. Plow 12:32 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're.

I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.
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Pants 12:35 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.
MU will commission a plastic trophy from one of those trophy stores and it will say "A proud member of the SEC since 2012." And then their trophy case won't be empty any more and they will have something to be proud of at last. :-)
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Frazod 12:36 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.
It's more like the difference between Ground Chuck and Spam.
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