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ROYC75 01:21 PM 03-01-2023
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21


Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?
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Abba-Dabba 03:04 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by BWillie:
He played 10 games last year. His stats extrapolated out to 17 games is 1355 yards. And he had the midget loser throwing to him, then Colt McCoy, Mcsorely, and some guy named David Blough.
Ok. Am I supposed to award him a trophy?

He is going to be over 30. Most WR's, even the great one's start to diminish over 30 both in a physical and statistical standpoint. Father time is mother fucker.


I've asked you several times. How big of a contract are you going to weigh yourself down with on a WR that is showing signs of the physical issues that come after 30?

How much guaranteed and how much per year?
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BWillie 03:17 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba:
Ok. Am I supposed to award him a trophy?

He is going to be over 30. Most WR's, even the great one's start to diminish over 30 both in a physical and statistical standpoint. Father time is mother fucker.


I've asked you several times. How big of a contract are you going to weigh yourself down with on a WR that is showing signs of the physical issues that come after 30?

How much guaranteed and how much per year?
3 years. 20M per. Be just fine.
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Chief Roundup 03:29 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by BWillie:
3 years. 20M per. Be just fine.
:-)

He is scheduled to get $19.5M next year and $14.9 the following and if traded wants a new deal with more guaranteed money and a larger base salary.
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Abba-Dabba 03:30 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by BWillie:
3 years. 20M per. Be just fine.
He's probably looking for more in the range of 22-25AAV and 60 million guaranteed IMO. And that might be on the lower end. I could easily see him trying for a Davante type deal for around 25-27.

Count me out on that.
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Chief Pagan 03:44 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Pacheco, Kelce and Toney are legit blue chippers. Keep trying to find other blue chippers but the cup is by no means bare.

Hope they don’t feel like they have to make a move like this bc last year proved they didn’t
Pacheco is young and they can give him as many carries as you want to take away from Mahomes.

Toney I have less faith in his health than Hammy Watkins. Although I'm wishing for the best.

Kelce we have to be realistic about:

1. load management

2. What happens if he is out for a few games.

I'm not that excited about DHop, but I'm not excited about seeing WRs in playoff games that haven't ever caught any passes or TDs either...
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bigjosh 03:46 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
:-)

He is scheduled to get $19.5M next year and $14.9 the following and if traded wants a new deal with more guaranteed money and a larger base salary.

He has zero guaranteed in the next two years for base salary. If you guarantee 20m per that is a raise.


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Skyy God 03:49 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
So if Hardman and Juju go are folks really suggesting Pat should be given Moore, MVS, Toney and a draft pick? Smh

Firstly any draft pick we get, unless they are totally out of the norm, will NOT make a huge impact next season and we all should know it by now. And with Toney's injury history there's s big chance he misses a number of games too so I very much doubt that we won't get a vet WR this offseason.

OBJ
DHop
Evans
Thomas
Thielan

Could all be available. I watched some clips of Thomas from the few games he played last season and man looked electric. If there's a guy to take a chance on it's him imo.

Dj Chark, Denzel Mims and Van Jefferson are a few other names to consider for cheap aswell. We know Veach will have a plan and hopefully Pat will be happy with what transpires in the end.
https://youtu.be/8Q3AiDVJs2A
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dtrain 04:00 PM 03-04-2023
Where did the he will want a new contract come from any legitimate source or someone's speculation. To play two years here where the Chiefs only pay the base salary isn't bad. In my opinion if he comes here i think he'd be willing to play on current contract. I wouldn't give up a first a second and another pick and try to get a pick back.
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bigjosh 04:03 PM 03-04-2023
I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”
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Chief Roundup 04:31 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
He has zero guaranteed in the next two years for base salary. If you guarantee 20m per that is a raise.


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who said anything about guaranteed $20M per year?
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Chief Roundup 04:33 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by dtrain:
Where did the he will want a new contract come from any legitimate source or someone's speculation. To play two years here where the Chiefs only pay the base salary isn't bad. In my opinion if he comes here i think he'd be willing to play on current contract. I wouldn't give up a first a second and another pick and try to get a pick back.
That is from the rumor mill at the combine which includes most of the reliable sources.
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Chief Roundup 04:33 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”
Who is crying?
Do you have a problem working the keyboard correctly?
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dtrain 04:39 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
That is from the rumor mill at the combine which includes most of the reliable sources.
link?
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bigjosh 04:57 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Who is crying?
Do you have a problem working the keyboard correctly?


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Chief Roundup 05:08 PM 03-04-2023
Originally Posted by dtrain:
link?
Google works for you just like it does me.
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