Biggest problem I see for Denver is this might turn into a one year rent-a-player. Wilson has said he wants Mahomes money when his contract expires next year. On the plus side for Denver he should give all he has left to get that deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
Elway won MVP of the last real game he played in...WTF are you talking about. His arm blew out the Falcons...that game was 31-6 at one point in the 4th quarter. His last season...they went 13-0 before losing a game, and I am not discounting the performance of HOF running back T. Davis, nor the offensive line. Peyton didn't take HGH as far as I know and if he did it was probably prescribed by his doctor and none of our business.
Either way...Russell Wilson ain't at the end of a 16-18 year career. So...just...stop.
Whatever dude. You're completely delusional if u think Elway did not taper off. And extremely obtuse if u believe that Manning wasn't doping the way he fell off the cliff his last season when the jig was up.... Maybe the HGH really was his wife's... :-)
And nobody ever said Wilson was at the end of his career. What was said, and is fact, is he was not as good last year as he had been in past years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I don’t get the narrative that this guy turned into a pumpkin the 2nd half of the season. He had 15 TD’s/3 INT’s in his last 8 games coming back from an injured hand in season. So he was on pace for 30 TD’s/6 INT’s? And that’s bad?
Also who are your top 10 QB’s now that Brady is gone? Figure it would be:
1. Mahomes
2. Allen
3. Rodgers
4. Stafford
5. Burrow
6. Wilson (close call with Burrow)
7. Dak
8. Herbert
9. Murray
10. Cousins
Russell is a great player. The only thing that messed up his season was the hand injury. It's going to be a heck of a battle in the AFC West. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Very different times now. Chiefs and Chargers are better and the AFC is packed. Not the same.
I wasn't speaking to the division... just the team. Many said the team that Manning joined was without talent, similar to what's being said now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
I wasn't speaking to the division... just the team. Many said the team that Manning joined was without talent, similar to what's being said now.
who is saying that? Plenty of talent on Donks team.
Hackett will have no excuses for not making the playoffs this coming season [Reply]
Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan:
who is saying that? Plenty of talent on Donks team.
Hackett will have no excuses for not getting to playoffs this coming season
There have been a few comments questioning the talent. [Reply]
Told you guys Pete Carroll’s philosophy was from the 90’s. How could any QB want to play that way in this league currently? Of course Russ wanted out of there.
The phrase “let Russ cook!” wasn’t just a catchphrase. It had a lot of meaning
"Ideology there was defense first. Kicking game. Punt the ball. Field position. Force turnovers. Defensive led.
Then they'd hand the ball to Russ and say 'go be magic'"
enlightening clip from Greg Olsen, who spent the 2020 season with the Seahawks https://t.co/xY36RoGMp3
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Told you guys Pete Carroll’s philosophy was from the 90’s. How could any QB want to play that way in this league currently? Of course Russ wanted out of there.
The phrase “let Russ cook!” wasn’t just a catchphrase. It had a lot of meaning
This has been pretty well understood for a few years now.
They let "Russ Cook". He turned into a damn Interception machine and the offense regressed.
So they put the leash back on his ass again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
I wasn't speaking to the division... just the team. Many said the team that Manning joined was without talent, similar to what's being said now.
There’s a difference between potential and talent.
All the Donks have been is potential. Jerry Jeudy is potential. He’s been a disappointment with shit QBs.
You know who else had shit QBs? Dwayne Bowe. You know who still put up stats with shit QBs? Dwayne Bowe.
Let’s see if Jerry Jeudy is even as good as Dwayne Bowe. He hasn’t shown shit yet. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
This has been pretty well understood for a few years now.
They let "Russ Cook". He turned into a damn Interception machine and the offense regressed.
So they put the leash back on his ass again.
Patrick Mahomes turned the ball over a ton last year in the first half of the season. His coach didn’t get scared and turtle up. That’s the difference.
Any philosophy like Pete’s is a non-starter. That’s why teams want offensive QB coaches now [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Patrick Mahomes turned the ball over a ton last year in the first half of the season. His coach didn’t get scared and turtle up. That’s the difference.
Any philosophy like Pete’s is a non-starter. That’s why teams want offensive QB coaches now
Since it didn’t stick the first time:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut: He threw the ball 32 times/gm over the last two seasons and after average 8 yards per attempt through his prime, Wilson averaged 7.6 YPA the last 2 seasons.
With the same offensive philosophy. And in both years he was worse in the 2nd half than he was in the 1st. That's not a philosophy issue.
