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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Patriots
cmh6476 01:38 PM 01-13-2019
too soon?
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Frosty 05:42 PM 01-15-2019
Good lord. :-) It's going to be a looooooong week.
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WhamBlock 05:43 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by bobbything:
So...much...nonsense...

Indirectly comparing your defense to the Ravens is funny. Your defense is flat out bad on the road. It’s okay to admit it. We have admitted it here about our own.

Watkins was very effective and played plenty of snaps against the colts.

Hill did not hurt his knee in the Colts game. No clue where you pull that from.

We scored 24 in regulation against a great defense and an offense that was able to play keep away. Again, the Pats defense is nowhere near the Ravens.

KC will score at least 27. BrAARPdy will have to keep pace.

Our lowest outputs on offense this year had Hunt in the lineup. We’ve actually been way more efficient without him.
I'm not indirectly comparing at all. I'm making direct comparisons. There are similarities in some of the alignments that we use, along with the way we both scheme pressure. However, the Ravens blitz way more than we do, but we have more pressures per snap, and our secondary is better than theirs.

The Ravens have a vastly superior run defense, though.
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Chief_N_Bama 06:05 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
Is reading comprehension a problem in Kansas City?

You didn't start scoring TDs until the 2nd half, when we played a lot more Cover 2 to try to protect the lead.

In the 1st half when we ran our usual Cover 1/Cover 3 defense, along with some Cover 0 w/ amoeba fronts, the Chiefs offense couldn't score a single TD.
Lol... you're so busy being condescending you're making a fool of yourself. Not scoring TD's isn't the same as "doing virtually nothing". KC advanced to at least NE's 24 yard line on every possession but one in the first half. That is not "doing virtually nothing".
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WhamBlock 06:07 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
Lol... you're so busy being condescending you're making a fool of yourself. Not scoring TD's isn't the same as "doing virtually nothing". KC advanced to at least NE's 24 yard line on every possession but one in the first half. That is not "doing virtually nothing".
The offense was held without a TD in that half. That is the very definition of doing virtually nothing.
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KC Dan 06:08 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
The offense was held without a TD in that half. That is the very definition of doing virtually nothing.
Why don't you start making excuses for your sorry azz defense & offense on the road this year. Your not at home this week
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Kiimo 06:09 PM 01-15-2019
Congrats on slowing down a guy playing his 7th NFL game for 30 minutes.
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WhamBlock 06:12 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
Why don't you start making excuses for your sorry azz defense & offense on the road this year. Your not at home this week
We always get better towards the end of the season, and in our last road game of the season, we held Pittsburgh to 17 points, and Brown/JuJu had a combined 89 yards.

Is your only hope here that the Patriots will play like they did in Tennessee? Is that what your SB berth hinges on?
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htismaqe 06:15 PM 01-15-2019
I've been busy for a couple of hours but let me see if I can sum it up.

1. Stephon Gilmore is the best CB to ever play the game.
2. The Chiefs won't score 20.
3. Bill Belichick will design defenses that even Martians could beat with their laser guns.

Oh and #4...

CHUNG
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Kiimo 06:15 PM 01-15-2019
Nah our hope hinges on us playing like we do at home and you playing like you do away.
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Halfcan 06:17 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
We always get better towards the end of the season, and in our last road game of the season, we held Pittsburgh to 17 points, and Brown/JuJu had a combined 89 yards.

Is your only hope here that the Patriots will play like they did in Tennessee? Is that what your SB berth hinges on?
Are you really bragging about a game you Lost when your Offense only managed 10 points? :-)
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SupDock 06:17 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
We always get better towards the end of the season, and in our last road game of the season, we held Pittsburgh to 17 points, and Brown/JuJu had a combined 89 yards.

Is your only hope here that the Patriots will play like they did in Tennessee? Is that what your SB berth hinges on?
Your argument for improving as the season goes on is a game you lost?

I think you can make the argument that in that game the Patriots did "virtually nothing" on offense
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htismaqe 06:19 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
We always get better towards the end of the season, and in our last road game of the season, we held Pittsburgh to 17 points, and Brown/JuJu had a combined 89 yards.

Is your only hope here that the Patriots will play like they did in Tennessee? Is that what your SB berth hinges on?
:-)

YOUR only hope is that Patrick f-ing Mahomes doesn't play like he did in ALL 18 previous games he's played in the NFL. Good luck with that.
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SupDock 06:20 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
The offense was held without a TD in that half. That is the very definition of doing virtually nothing.
I think scoring 10 points in an entire game is the definition of virtually nothing. The Chiefs offense doesn't know anything about that, so I will have to defer to you
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Chief_N_Bama 06:21 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhamBlock:
This is actually true. I was thinking of those red zone trips by the Chiefs in the 1st half when our pressure resulted in 3rd down stops. Best example was when we came out in Cover 0 and got to Mahomes. The pressure forced a bad throw to Kelce who as 1 on 1 on 3rd down. Forced KC to settle for a FG.

The point remains. Pressure can affect a QB even when there is no sack.
Exactly. And that's why y'all lose.

NE is the road team this time, against an elite pass rushing team, with elite pass rushers at every position along the defensive front. KC got to Brady twice at Gillette, and they average a sack 9.34% at home (2nd in the NFL). And as previously mentioned, Brady has been bad against pressure this year.

Meanwhile, KC only gives up a sack on only 2.42% of passes at home, and Mahomes is among the leagues best under pressure to begin with.
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WhamBlock 06:24 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Your argument for improving as the season goes on is a game you lost?

I think you can make the argument that in that game the Patriots did "virtually nothing" on offense
The offense did do nothing. That's correct. Brady was playing with a sprained MCL during the second half of the season.

Luckily, he's healthy now.
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