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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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mnchiefsguy 01:29 PM 10-18-2011
Might as well give up being a Mizzou fan...they are no better than the Royals according to KK.
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evenfall 01:32 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
KK is coming up on the radio. Today's meltdown should be classic.
Just beating the "Missouri can't compete in the SEC" drum, starting by playing a clip from Herbstreit and saying that he didn't really mean what he said when he said Missouri would walk in around the equator of that conference, and that they could compete.

That will be the party line I guess, "you are gonna get killed over there", because its not falsifiable except over the course of years.
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Saul Good 01:34 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
He's such a jerk!! :-)

I've got no problem listening to him. His tears sustain me. If he wants to pull down his pants and march down Main Street for attention and ratings, he can go for it.
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mnchiefsguy 01:36 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I've got no problem listening to him. His tears sustain me. If he wants to pull down his pants and march down Main Street for attention and ratings, he can go for it.
He may need to do that...if he stops covering Mizzou like he is threatening to do, his ratings will only be going down.
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evenfall 01:42 PM 10-18-2011
Reminds me of that speech Kennedy gave about trying to put a man on the moon. Some people say, why do this, why go to the moon, why climb Everest, etc. And his response, KK, was that we chose to go to the moon not because it was easy but because it was hard. Missouri believes in their program and is not afraid to take on a massive challenge to try to be greater. Digging your feet in and throwing a fit about the way the world is won't help anyone. Missouri says, "We belong up there." The SEC seems to agree.

The shrill, small voices of naysaying can stay where they are and try to be happy with what they have as the world evolves around them.

Missouri says, so long and thanks for all the fish.
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mnchiefsguy 01:46 PM 10-18-2011
KK ripping into callers now....he is getting ready to blow.
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Pants 01:47 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by evenfall:
Reminds me of that speech Kennedy gave about trying to put a man on the moon. Some people say, why do this, why go to the moon, why climb Everest, etc. And his response, KK, was that we chose to go to the moon not because it was easy but because it was hard. Missouri believes in their program and is not afraid to take on a massive challenge to try to be greater. Digging your feet in and throwing a fit about the way the world is won't help anyone. Missouri says, "We belong up there." The SEC seems to agree.

The shrill, small voices of naysaying can stay where they are and try to be happy with what they have as the world evolves around them.

Missouri says, so long and thanks for all the fish.
You're talking about intercollegiate sports, right?

Dumbass.
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DeezNutz 01:47 PM 10-18-2011
"Don't put my words in my mouth!"
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evenfall 01:50 PM 10-18-2011
I had to turn it off when he was comparing this to hoping the Broncos get Luck, because then the Chiefs will be in a better division.
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mnchiefsguy 01:50 PM 10-18-2011
But KK is a big Mizzou fan according to him. He loves Mizzou!
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evenfall 01:51 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
You're talking about intercollegiate sports, right?

Dumbass.
I don't see why that's inaccurate. He went on for 15 minutes about how Missouri is making a mistake because it will be hard. Well, shying away from doing things that are hard is not the attitude they have.
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kstater 01:52 PM 10-18-2011
How can ANYONE listen to him?
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Saul Good 01:52 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by evenfall:
Just beating the "Missouri can't compete in the SEC" drum, starting by playing a clip from Herbstreit and saying that he didn't really mean what he said when he said Missouri would walk in around the equator of that conference, and that they could compete.

That will be the party line I guess, "you are gonna get killed over there", because its not falsifiable except over the course of years.
Its impossible to field a winning team in the SEC because all the teams are so good!

That's like saying that nobody goes to that restaurant because its too crowded to get a table.
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kstater 01:53 PM 10-18-2011
OMG Did you hear what KIETZMAN just said?
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evenfall 01:55 PM 10-18-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
OMG Did you hear what KIETZMAN just said?
It's fun to listen to him melt down on callers like that one. Entertaining, no question about it. But he is a sideshow in the end.
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