Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
Gable's heel turn has been excellent. Real Fox Catcher descent into madness vibes going on.
Probably the most interesting thing in WWE at the moment. Sure, Drew and Punk going back and forth has been entertaining but they're at the point where they need to actually wrestle to keep it interesting. I guess Doms little love triangle as well. [Reply]
I'll give credit to them for somehow making Tama Tonga interesting. I actually think he'd be a much better placeholder leader than Solo at the moment, but Solo does fuck all for me in this role. [Reply]
Another thing I was disappointed by is just how much of a tool Brian Gewirtz apparently is. Tried to blame the storyline of Cody Rhodes giving up his title shot to The Rock failing solely due to Cody giving the wrong reaction the night he did it. Hell, they were apparently planning to write Cody Rhodes off of Wrestlemania ENTIRELY. Kind of killed my enthusiasm for any future Rock involvement knowing this knuckle dragging buffoon will be right there with him and how out of touch they both seemingly were to think that was a good idea. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
It really did. It's unbelievable how bad they screwed it up
People expected things they weren't going to get..they're a 5 year old company. From a business perspective what they've accomplished is pretty remarkable.
AEW went from getting carte blanche because they got a nice honeymoon because they weren't Vince McMahon. Now WWE has that period because hey Vince is gone. [Reply]
:-) That's a pretty abhorrent oversimplication. Yes, AEW has fallen off pretty hard because they've gotten lazy and complacent due to always believing they'd have fans just because they weren't WWE, but they have had incredibly hot stretches based solely on their own merits and actually having guys that understood how to draw running their own shit.
And no, WWE isn't hot currently because Vince is gone. He's been more or less out of power since 2022 with a short return to facilitate the sale to Endeavor. They're hot because they've earned it with some really damn good booking and Kevin Dunn finally fucking off and being replaced with Lee Fitting. It's actually insane just how massive an improvement the changes in production have been for WWE. Combined with the announcers actually being able to do their jobs without someone screaming at them constantly how to behave down to the minute detail and it may as well be an entirely new presentation. [Reply]
AEW does have some highlights. Christian is doing some of the best heel work going. Hangman when he is motivated can do some real compelling storylines. Joe has been solid in his role.
The problem is that you have 3 vanilla midgets and a clearly going through the motions Okada trying to be the nWo but they don't have the charisma or cultural touchstones of Nash and Hall. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
AEW does have some highlights. Christian is doing some of the best heel work going. Hangman when he is motivated can do some real compelling storylines. Joe has been solid in his role.
The problem is that you have 3 vanilla midgets and a clearly going through the motions Okada trying to be the nWo but they don't have the charisma or cultural touchstones of Nash and Hall.
But they have Will Ospreay who looks like the guy.. [Reply]
Yeah..... Young Bucks and Perry have the wrong type of heat. I don't want to see them get their asses beaten, I just don't want to see any of them, ever. I'll gladly take more Okada provided he puts forth a bit more effort and gets into a program with some of the other top guys. [Reply]
"Tony switched the script on yesterday's PPV multiple times during the afternoon. Most people, not just the wrestlers, have no idea what they're doing until the day of the show, and sometimes not until an hour or so before the show. People are flown to towns and given nothing to do, others are begged the day before the show to please get to the town so they can do something last-minute. He knows what he wants to do for PPVs (although this often changes), but as far as week-to-week TV, everything is booked show-to-show. For most people he's incredibly difficult to get hold of. In some ways, it legitimately is more like 2019 WWE than it is 2019 AEW, where he was much easier to get hold of, he had very complex long-term storytelling, many people had a good idea of what they were doing and where things were going, and often most of the following week's entire Dynamite card was booked and announced before the previous week's Dynamite had even ended (remember when Excalibur would run down two dozen matches in 30 seconds for the following week?). It's night and day the changes, and people who work for the company, in all roles from the wrestlers to the office, talk about it ALL THE TIME."
The dude needs help, badly. And no, not just a couple self serving veteran wrestlers chiming in now and then with ideas. Try and hire some folks that actually know what they're doing full time with booking being their primary responsibility. Seemingly has an endless budget to bring in on air talent, it's time to do it with off air talent as well. [Reply]
Tony should of jumped on Scott D'amour when he was fired from TNA. He booked a good product on a shoe string budget and was well respected by the workers. [Reply]
