Originally Posted by The Franchise:
They talked about it on Times Ours but the Giants played it perfectly. You put your best CB on Kelce and then your second best on Hill with the safety doubling him.
That's a Belichick special there. You need two guys to cover Hill anyway so you may as well use put your best on the #2 and let the less talented guy receive some help. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I think Pest nailed it.
He’s clearly not 100% and probably sick of being mugged every play.
This is 100% it, and it's not just Kelce. Mahomes gets pulverized after almost every play and the officials just casually watch it happen. Our receivers are constantly mugged and I can't even remember the last time we got a PI call in a critical situation. It literally does not happen.
Everyone says defenses have "figured us out," and in a way they kind of have. They've discovered that the officials will allow us to get mauled at every level on offense and not do a damn thing about it. So they kick the shit out of us every chance they get and it's wearing this team down.
People will say "Oh you can't blame the officials, blah blah blah," but when they're intentionally neutering our offense week after week and it becomes obvious that it's beating the hell out of our players mentally and physically, it needs to be called out.
I'm getting really sick of watching it. It simply does not happen to other star players and teams and it's unacceptable. We're treated like the damn Detroit Lions. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
This is 100% it, and it's not just Kelce. Mahomes gets pulverized after almost every play and the officials just casually watch it happen.
Pat brings a lot of that shit on himself. He really, really needs to learn to play more safely.
The most important play about 99.99999% of the time is always going to be the next one. Guy's put himself at risk of taking big hits for little reason far too frequently. That extra 2 yards he might gain my not sliding is just not worth him suffering some sort of serious or lingering injury. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Not to the level Kelce has been in the past.
Kelce's been chill for like 4 years now. He's matured a ton.
No, refs aren't holding half decade old grudges against the guy.
Tight ends get mugged. They've always gotten mugged. Tony G got it just as bad. Kittle gets beat to shit as well.
Honestly, if you don't let teams get physical with the TEs, there's very little you can do to cover them. And they do spend a lot of time within the 5 yard legal contact zone.
He's just got a lot of miles on him. He's dinged up and it's keeping him from playing to the level he's accustomed to. It's wearing on him, IMO. It happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Pat brings a lot of that shit on himself. He really, really needs to learn to play more safely.
The most important play about 99.99999% of the time is always going to be the next one. Guy's put himself at risk of taking big hits for little reason far too frequently. That extra 2 yards he might gain my not sliding is just not worth him suffering some sort of serious or lingering injury.
While I agree he needs to play safer outside the pocket, I'm talking about times he stays in the pocket and still gets sandwiched by 3 guys well after throwing the ball. It's a penalty for Brady every single time so you never see defenders pull that crap with him. With Pat, they just turn a blind eye to it.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I said it going into the Ravens game.
It's the Belichick approach. And it's the only thing that's ever really slowed him down. I haven't been able to figure out why more teams haven't been doing this for years.
I think part of it is that very few corners have the level of physicality that Bradberry has so not many can stick with him. But still - it should be the default attempt for everybody.
Nobody can single Hill. And few teams have the personnel to double Hill AND Kelce. So if you're picking your poison, you double Hill and single Kelce. Well you damn sure don't want to be doing that with a Linebacker or a weak CB.
It's just self-evident, IMO. And has been for a long time.
Some of these guys are far dumber than I realize.
A lot of teams have used that approach.
The trouble is even those guys can’t cover TK87. [Reply]
