As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."
I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.
So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:
Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.
Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.
Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
There is a pretty big difference between: "You're a hypocritical sack of cunt whose only bona fide occupational qualification is fucking anything with hang down and chucking out kids like a damn quarter machine at the grocery store."
And
"Jimmy, this place has its pick of the best of the best from
Prestigious law programs. I think it would be best if you established yourself as a lawyer at a different firm before coming on at HHM to ensure there is no nepotism."
Look dude, I'm directly involved with 12 related party business arrangements and have a cursory understanding of several others. Unequivocally the answer is ALWAYS honesty and a clear understanding of the circumstances. Always.
Not hiring Jimmy is not bad.
Lying to him about it is.
Business and family are two very different animals. The situations aren't terribly analogous and really shouldn't be. Honesty in a business relationship is almost universally the best bet. Honesty between friends and family? Well sometimes it's best to spare someone's feelings. Like I said, nobody likes to admit it in practice, but nobody likes the asshole that never does it in reality. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Business and family are two very different animals. The situations aren't terribly analogous and really shouldn't be. Honesty in a business relationship is almost universally the best bet. Honesty between friends and family? Well sometimes it's best to spare someone's feelings. Like I said, nobody likes to admit it in practice, but nobody likes the asshole that never does it in reality.
But what we are talking about IS business. Chuck as the partner is the boss. Jimmy is basically an applicant looking for a job.
And he's family. So Chuck really needed to handle it as tactfully as possible to maintain his family relationship.
Family business arrangements are not inherently bad. Douchebags like Chuck that can't separate emotion from business are when family business arrangements go bad. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
But what we are talking about IS business. Chuck as the partner is the boss. Jimmy is basically an applicant looking for a job.
And he's family. So Chuck really needed to handle it as tactfully as possible to maintain his family relationship.
Family business arrangements are not inherently bad. Douchebags like Chuck that can't separate emotion from business are when family business arrangements go bad.
If it were just business, he wouldn't even get an interview. It's only a situation because it was family.
And from his chair, having Hamlin take the bullet for him was the most tactful way to deal with it. It's not an indefensible thought. [Reply]
I watched Saul's introductory episode from BB last night. It is truly amazing how much he changed from then to now (Badger in the chow line), but one thing I noticed:
When Walt and Jesse have him by the makeshift grave and Saul thinks he's about to get killed, he says, "No, no, no, it wasn't me, it was Ignacio, he's the one. Oh no, siempre, siempre, Soy amigo del cartel," which translates into "I am always a friend of the cartel."
So, at some point between the first season of BCS and season two of BB, Saul gets involved with some pretty serious cartel shit, as does Ignacio, Tuco's associate who wanted him to give up the Kettlemans. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I watched Saul's introductory episode from BB last night. It is truly amazing how much he changed from then to now (Badger in the chow line), but one thing I noticed:
When Walt and Jesse have him by the makeshift grave and Saul thinks he's about to get killed, he says, "No, no, no, it wasn't me, it was Ignacio, he's the one. Oh no, siempre, siempre, Soy amigo del cartel," which translates into "I am always a friend of the cartel."
So, at some point between the first season of BCS and season two of BB, Saul gets involved with some pretty serious cartel shit, as does Ignacio, Tuco's associate who wanted him to give up the Kettlemans.
Heh. Interesting. I never knew the translation. I thought he was just babbling. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I watched Saul's introductory episode from BB last night. It is truly amazing how much he changed from then to now (Badger in the chow line), but one thing I noticed:
When Walt and Jesse have him by the makeshift grave and Saul thinks he's about to get killed, he says, "No, no, no, it wasn't me, it was Ignacio, he's the one. Oh no, siempre, siempre, Soy amigo del cartel," which translates into "I am always a friend of the cartel."
So, at some point between the first season of BCS and season two of BB, Saul gets involved with some pretty serious cartel shit, as does Ignacio, Tuco's associate who wanted him to give up the Kettlemans.
Yup. I watched Saul's introduction to see if there were any call backs during season 1 of BCS. I about leaped with glee when I heard him reference Ignacio.
If we see Gus + a pre-stroke Tio Salamanca in the coming seasons, consequences will never be the same. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I watched Saul's introductory episode from BB last night. It is truly amazing how much he changed from then to now (Badger in the chow line), but one thing I noticed:
When Walt and Jesse have him by the makeshift grave and Saul thinks he's about to get killed, he says, "No, no, no, it wasn't me, it was Ignacio, he's the one. Oh no, siempre, siempre, Soy amigo del cartel," which translates into "I am always a friend of the cartel."
So, at some point between the first season of BCS and season two of BB, Saul gets involved with some pretty serious cartel shit, as does Ignacio, Tuco's associate who wanted him to give up the Kettlemans.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I do. It's not bad. As long as everyone is a reasonable human.
I have too. I think it creates problems and rifts. Some can do it. Some can't. Some expect too much and take advantage in a way others would not. Spares a lot of hurt feelings to not mix, imo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
I have too. I think it creates problems and rifts. Some can do it. Some can't. Some expect too much and take advantage in a way others would not. Spares a lot of hurt feelings to not mix, imo.
