Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Can we now agree that Reva is a pretty damn good character?
Her actions and performance now line up completely with her motivations.
I would disagree with this, it was supposed to be a plot twist that she was actually going after Vader, but it was telegraphed from the very beginning. It's honestly probably not the actress's fault, but the entire character was handled poorly IMO.
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Also I really wish they would stop with the "Jedi/Sith stopping ships from taking off with the force" bit. I mean why does Vader stop that ship, but doesn't even attempt to stop Leia's ship at the beginning of ANH, or attempt to stop the Millenium Falcon from leaving Hoth. And even if we look at the scene in Kenobi why is he able to stop the 1st ship but the 2nd ship behind it somehow he isn't able to stop.
Originally Posted by ScareCrowe:
I would disagree with this, it was supposed to be a plot twist that she was actually going after Vader, but it was telegraphed from the very beginning. It's honestly probably not the actress's fault, but the entire character was handled poorly IMO.
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Also I really wish they would stop with the "Jedi/Sith stopping ships from taking off with the force" bit. I mean why does Vader stop that ship, but doesn't even attempt to stop Leia's ship at the beginning of ANH, or attempt to stop the Millenium Falcon from leaving Hoth. And even if we look at the scene in Kenobi why is he able to stop the 1st ship but the 2nd ship behind it somehow he isn't able to stop.
It's already been blown wide open by the Holdo maneuver. At the very least in at least one of those situations Vader let them go with an ulterior motives in mind. If you REALLY need something to explain it away Vader is probably at or near his strongest point in the dark side during that moment due to his hatred of Obi Wan. Got fatigued once and couldn't do it again. [Reply]
why does Vader stop that ship, but doesn't even attempt to stop Leia's ship at the beginning of ANH, or attempt to stop the Millenium Falcon from leaving Hoth. And even if we look at the scene in Kenobi why is he able to stop the 1st ship but the 2nd ship behind it somehow he isn't able to stop.
For lack of a better term, his mana was depleted.
Force users aren't at 100% power all day every day.
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In this case all Vader did was land and walk toward the hangar bay. I'm sure he was able to concentrate his entire power and focus in that moment on that task.
It's like Luke exhausting himself from force projection.
Anakin was always a flawed Jedi. The whole time before the turn to the dark side.
I know it’s a 30 year old question…… Did Obi-Wan really fail him? Would the great Yoda have been able to keep him from the dark side? From what we know of who he truly is, reinforced in this series, he was and is who he was always meant to be despite any intervention or training. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Anakin was always a flawed Jedi. The whole time before the turn to the dark side.
I know it’s a 30 year old question…… Did Obi-Wan really fail him? Would the great Yoda have been able to keep him from the dark side? From what we know of who he truly is, reinforced in this series, he was and is who he was always meant to be despite any intervention or training.
I don't know how much more Obi-Wan specifically could have done, but the prequels do a pretty good job of showing that the Jedi were stubborn and blind to what was right in front of them (Anakin's turn included). [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I don't know how much more Obi-Wan specifically could have done, but the prequels do a pretty good job of showing that the Jedi were stubborn and blind to what was right in front of them (Anakin's turn included).
Sure, they should have seen it coming but they couldn’t have stopped it. It’s the baby hitler argument. The only way you stop Anakin from becoming Vadar is to kill him before he becomes Vadar. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
It's already been blown wide open by the Holdo maneuver. At the very least in at least one of those situations Vader let them go with an ulterior motives in mind. If you REALLY need something to explain it away Vader is probably at or near his strongest point in the dark side during that moment due to his hatred of Obi Wan. Got fatigued once and couldn't do it again.
No in neither case was he letting them go. The only time he let them go was in ANH when they left the death star as a way to find the rebel base. When he was chasing Leia, he continued chasing her & took her ship moments later. On Hoth he was so desperate to catch them he chased them into an asteroid field.
And I would prefer I not have to use a silly justification like "he's only strong enough to do it because of his hatred for Obi Wan" I'd prefer they just quit putting it into plots. It didn't really add anything IMO & quite frankly felt to me like something they felt they had to do in order to establish that Rey wasn't more powerful than Vader. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
It's already been blown wide open by the Holdo maneuver. At the very least in at least one of those situations Vader let them go with an ulterior motives in mind. If you REALLY need something to explain it away Vader is probably at or near his strongest point in the dark side during that moment due to his hatred of Obi Wan. Got fatigued once and couldn't do it again.
This episode was bad. And the clearest demonstration yet of how much better the production values have been for The Mandalorian.
The graphics looked like bad SciFi Channel stuff, Christiansen looked 15 years older than he did last time we saw him. 3rd sisters ‘dramatic moment’…cringe. And folks - that’s a bad actress. Sorry Disney. I know it chaps your ass but she’s awful.
This episode was bad. And the clearest demonstration yet of how much better the production values have been for The Mandalorian.
The graphics looked like bad SciFi Channel stuff, Christiansen looked 15 years older than he did last time we saw him. 3rd sisters ‘dramatic moment’…cringe. And folks - that’s a bad actress. Sorry Disney. I know it chaps your ass but she’s awful.
