Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.
Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.
Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds
Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)
So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.
TLDR;
Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.
PS:
Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.
PSS:
Fucking Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!
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Fucking MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Here's the touchdown - the 'quarterback view' is the best one to demonstrate it. Look at about the 36 second mark how he pivots his hips and sets his feet to turn upfield and deliver a blow before the ball gets there. It's brilliant stuff.
Now again, I'm not saying that Robinson needs to be this good at that sort of thing, but it demonstrates how important those little things can be (and how obscenely good Kelce is at it).
It just has to be a mental block. There's no way the coaches and teammates don't get on his ass in film study. [Reply]
I could seriously watch that play all day. He is so friggen good. I didn't notice it in real time at all until I saw this video this morning. Very few people will ever ask themselves how the hell he got upfield that quickly because it just never occurs to them to do so. It seems easy to just turn and go.
But there aren't many, if any, TEs in football that get into the end zone on that play. It wasn't nearly as easy as it looked because most dudes take a straight shot after securing the catch from 55 and the 2 DBs clean it up before he gets in. It's just intuitive for him. He's so insanely good.
If you could get guys like Hardman and/or Robinson to think ahead of the game half as well as Kelce does, they'd be significantly better for it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I could seriously watch that play all day. He is so friggen good. I didn't notice it in real time at all until I saw this video this morning. Very few people will ever ask themselves how the hell he got upfield that quickly because it just never occurs to them to do so. It seems easy to just turn and go.
But there aren't many, if any, TEs in football that get into the end zone on that play. It wasn't nearly as easy as it looked because most dudes take a straight shot after securing the catch from 55 and the 2 DBs clean it up before he gets in. It's just intuitive for him. He's so insanely good.
If you could get guys like Hardman and/or Robinson to think ahead of the game half as well as Kelce does, they'd be significantly better for it.
Kelce became a master of moving in tight spaces after his concussion problems early. He changed the entire way he runs with the ball after the catch. He's way more methodical and purposeful now. [Reply]
I also kinda wonder why Hardman didn't get a free lick in on Johnson there. He's lined up for a pretty good block and a chance to hit a DB but makes a business decision. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Here's the touchdown - the 'quarterback view' is the best one to demonstrate it. Look at about the 36 second mark how he pivots his hips and sets his feet to turn upfield and deliver a blow before the ball gets there. It's brilliant stuff.
Now again, I'm not saying that Robinson needs to be this good at that sort of thing, but it demonstrates how important those little things can be (and how obscenely good Kelce is at it).
Pretty normal for Kelce these days. He seems to always be setting up for RAC.
He bobbled a pass earlier in the game and it looked like it was because he was looking to run before he secured it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The whole time people were bitching about the #2 WR here, it was always gonna be this way.
Hill and Kelce suck up targets as they should.
That's cause they are the only ones getting open.
When Sammy was around he got open, and got targets, and made them count.
A really good 3rd receiver would make everyone on that team better AND happier.
You don't think Kelce and Hill would love defenders having to pay real attention to another option, thus making the game easier for them as well? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Here's the touchdown - the 'quarterback view' is the best one to demonstrate it. Look at about the 36 second mark how he pivots his hips and sets his feet to turn upfield and deliver a blow before the ball gets there. It's brilliant stuff.
Now again, I'm not saying that Robinson needs to be this good at that sort of thing, but it demonstrates how important those little things can be (and how obscenely good Kelce is at it).
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Is Hardman as good as a healthy Sammy Watkins?
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Not even close. But Watkins was a first round talent all the way. Not really a fair comparison. Watkins, if he ever could've stayed healthy, would probably be talked about now as just below the likes of Diggs/Hopkins etc. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Not even close. But Watkins was a first round talent all the way. Not really a fair comparison. Watkins, if he ever could've stayed healthy, would probably be talked about now as just below the likes of Diggs/Hopkins etc.
Yep. That’s what’s always been so disappointing about Watkins with every team he’s been with. He’s as physically gifted as any WR in the NFL. But a chandelier. [Reply]
Originally Posted by flinchfree:
That's cause they are the only ones getting open.
When Sammy was around he got open, and got targets, and made them count.
A really good 3rd receiver would make everyone on that team better AND happier.
You don't think Kelce and Hill would love defenders having to pay real attention to another option, thus making the game easier for them as well?
You are imagining things. Hardman was every bit as productive as Sammy. Sammy disappeared more often than not, outside of the playoffs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You are imagining things. Hardman was every bit as productive as Sammy. Sammy disappeared more often than not, outside of the playoffs.
:-) if healthy he would have averaged 800 yards per season if you extrapolate his yards over 16 games. That's far from disappearing if when you have Kelce and Hill in front of you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-: :-) if healthy he would have averaged 800 yards per season if you extrapolate his yards over 16 games. That's far from disappearing if when you have Kelce and Hill in front of you.
This is just bullshit.
Sammy’s best season was in 2019 when he had 673 yards and 3 TD’s on 90 targets.
Mecole’s best season was also 2019 when he had 538 yards and 6 TD’s on 41 targets.
Sure, Sammy didn’t play in 16 games that year (14), but even when he almost did, he wasn’t THAT much more productive than a rookie Hardman, despite more than double the amount of targets. [Reply]
