Wondering about this. Everyone in here that posts hates Mo and wants him fired. Maybe Rams Fan is a little wishy washy on it but the rest of us are pretty strong in our views that he should have been fired years ago.

I don't frequent other Cardinal boards or live in St. Louis. Are we the outlier's in Cardinals nation with wanting Mo gone?
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Yes.

But again, Cardinal Nation hates Jim Edmonds on the call and loves Brad Thompson. They jerk off to performative standing ovations for guys who got traded to the team like Brandon Moss.

Cardinal Nation is roundly retarded and deserves John Mozeliak and his corporate babble bullshit.

Because for some reason they think that setting $400 million on fire is okay because 1/2 the teams in the NL aren't even trying to win and hey, we're better than those guys...
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Can I hate Jim Edmonds being an announcer because I think he’s an actual piece of shit human being?

Or does that mean I’m stupid.
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Jim Edmonds is the only person on the broadcast in 20 years who provides legitimate insight.

I won't object to someone disliking him personally, but to overlook his obvious contributions to the booth has you missing out on an opportunity to legitimately learn about the game.

I've never heard anything from Dan or Thompson or Horton or Al that wasn't self-evident. I know a fair amount about the game and at least twice a week Edmonds teaches me something.

He's a genuinely excellent color guy.
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"BT" is complete garbage on TV on radio. Like any random person would be better than him. It's embarrassing he's the best they can cone up with.
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Nobody likes Mo, for obvious reasons. He should be gone as well.

But damn, Schildt sure has grown in popularity since getting fired.
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That’s because Shildt is actually good at his job.
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I get you are fan and DJ is a fan, but a retarded chimp knew not to pitch Reyes there with the season literally on the line and other options. Every other pitcher available was better option, I called the homerun as soon as I saw Reyes warming up.

And I am sorry man, the guy who not only kept giving Carpenter playing time but batting him in the middle of the order is not a good manager. That's just a fact. 207 at bats for that turd and

Avg
.169

HR
3

RBI
21

OPS
.581

Schildt is probably a really good coach, he is a terrible manager, there are large differences.
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He was given literally dogshit to deal with in the bullpen.

I get the criticism with Reyes-but that’s like complaining about a broken toilet on a sinking ship.

The offense went 0-11 with RISP. The bullpen was Frankenstein’s monster. A historic streak led to them even making the play-in game.

It took a miracle for the team to accomplish what it did. Shildt leaving in McFarland or using a AAAA guy(Flaherty or Hudson wouldn’t have been used and shouldn’t have been seen as viable options in a mid-inning situation) wouldn’t have made a difference.
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He had other options that were obviously better, stop making excuses for it because thats all you are doing. And the win streak had jack and shit to do with Schildt they just got hot and went on a burner.
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Harrison Bader has had known coachibility issues his entire MLB career - plays the entire month of September like it's game 7 of the World Series and "Shildt had Jack Shit to do with it..." His 22 yr old RFer who'd struggled with his confidence in run production situations all season becomes a key RBI bat after Shildt shows confidence in him but nah - nothing. Edmundo Sosa is given the keys to SS and is a critical energy guy, defensive stalwart and out of nowhere offensive contributor to lengthen the order - fuck that Shildt guy, he wasn't the one who put him in the starting lineup or anything.

The streak is fueled by Tyler O'Neill who went supernova when moved into the 3 hole which gave Goldschmidt more pitches to hit and Arenado more RBI opportunities nd Dylan Carlson got moved into the 5 and blossomed - "Shildt had nothing to do with it"

Guy's dealing with a starting staff that you have to be SUPER cautious with because it's a bunch of old dudes with fringe stuff or a rookie with only two pitches so you have to be really aware on your hook, especially as they get through the order a 3rd time - "Shildt had nothing to do with it". And because of that hook, you have to get through 3-4 relievers most nights without finding one that will lose it for you - "Shildt. Jack. Shit."

Fucking ignorant. Just weapons grade stupidity.
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https://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...cab719ff8.html

This is why Shildt got fired and it had nothing to do with his ability as a manager.

He didn't kiss the ring so he got canned.

This is the money quote. This is thing I said the organization REALLY lost when it lost Larussa:

The problem is now we'll never have it as long as Mozeliak is here because he now how plenary authority to fire anyone that dares seek it out. LaRussa challenged his front office and the front office had to respond because LaRussa was the louder voice. Now he's never going to run that risk again. He saw the potential and snuffed it out.

There's some fermi paradox analogues or even fascism ones, but they're both belaboring the point. Bottom line is that this is going to be an organization full of mincy little yes men until Mozeliak is gone. And Mozeliak isn't going to be gone until DeWitt is.

Fucking John Mozeliak.
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Dj is on fire itt
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John Mozeliak has entered King Carl territory.
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He's entered Scott Pioli territory.

Walt was King Carl. He rebuilt the organization and was responsible for a significant turnaround. Then he got a bit stale and it was time to move on.

Then came in the new hotness who for a few years coasted on the performance of his underlings and used it to seize control of an organization. And as it turns out, he's a power hungry and incompetent clown who has no ability to self-criticize but has managed to snow the owner into believing he's something more than a snake-oil salesman.

Carl deserves credit for what he accomplished even if he eventually overstayed his welcome. Mozeliak, like Pioli, has never done anything but take credit for the work of others.

Fuck that motherfucker. I hope he goes drinking in the Dominican. Chode.
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