Yes 55 47.41%

No 61 52.59%

Ok, you super football analyst... Now do how many times we chipped for Whylie... the answer won't fit your narrative.

But dang... 17 pressures in 9 games, even 21 for Whylie with chip help is not horrible. Looks like they are both getting better.
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Uh, you do realize Brown was getting a lot of chip help as well, right?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/eagles/comm...t=share_button

From late December. There's roughly a 5% difference between how much Wylie was left on an island compared to Brown
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I don’t want to pay top dollar for a guy who’s good for 5 weeks
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I think we can all agree that Mahomes is fucking Houdini back there.

He makes our tackles look a lot better than they are
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It's 9 weeks, and nobody said top dollar. We are arguing the fact that he could be replaced by anyone and get the same production. Surely you don't agree with that like Superturtle?
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and also worse...we don't have Charlie checkdown back there and he tries to extend plays and takes deeper drops (less than in the past), don't want to change his play, but it does make it tougher on the Tackles.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think Brown is saying top dollar.

And if that is indeed the case, what would you do as GM?
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GTFO
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Again I really hate it that the game on Sunday is highly dependent on how this mothefucker plays. He gave up immediate pressure on a 3 man fucking rush. That can’t fucking happen.

If he’s even average then we will score at fucking will on these assholes
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Andy Reid better scheme everything to assume that OBJ is going to be a liability… can’t hope that reality away at this point.
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That makes me feel better. But he didn't exactly stone Key on the play Mahomes got injured.
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I think 'great' is strong, but he was absolutely solid.

I think this is the 2023 version of "Move Albert to Guard!!!"

People just never accepted the way Albert played. It was unorthodox and ugly as sin. And it damn sure wasn't Willie Roaf. But he was really effective. But the way he was effective was often pretty hideous to watch.

I noticed in re-watching that game that OBJ spent a lot of time with his arms out. And yeah, it looks like hell when he's doing that. But what he's doing is just taking an early set to protect inside while using his length to send a guy up the arc.

It's gross. I hate it. A lot of the time he looks like he's grasping at air but what you realize when you really watch the play is that there IS a method to it.

Again, I think there really are strong arguments on either side of this argument. I'm not sold on retaining him but damn man, I really am terrified about the idea of letting him walk as well. It could go REAL poorly. And Brown, if occasionally ugly in getting the job done, does actually get the job done a really high percentage of the time. And in an offense that seems tailor made to play into his weaknesses.

This is one of those times where I'm glad I'm not in Veach's chair.
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Pass blocking rarely 'stones' the rusher (unless the rusher in question is Frank Clark).

OBJ took his guy up the arc and created a pocket for Mahomes to move into. And then Mahomes didn't move into it; instead he moved to his right and held the ball looking to make a play.

This idea that "Mahomes makes plays outside the pocket so we need an OL that plays to that strength" is a little crazy to me. Folks - the OL's job is to FORM the pocket. If they've done that and then Mahomes leaves said pocket, that's on PM (for good and bad). You can't 'Mahomes proof' an offensive line.

As long as Mahomes is a guy that moves around back there trying to find plays downfield, plays like Saturday's will be a risk. It just is what it is.
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I think we gotta trust Veach, he's earned it, but this is a tough one...
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