Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
You can slice it up so many ways...
> the franchise does have 8 trips to the Super Bowl
> They have the 4th most wins since 1970 (456 and KC has 420)
> They have the 7th most wins since the NFL Merger (1966)
> They have the 6th most playoff wins since 1970
> They have the 7th most playoff wins since the NFL Merger (1966)
These things run in cycles. Hell, prior to Reid showing up and saving the franchise... in the 15 years before Reid, KC had 5 winning seasons.
Having some accomplishments doesn't mean that the organization consistently makes good decisions.
I'm sure you've noticed plenty of Denver fans bashing the Seattle organization, despite the fact that they've been consistent winners for years.
To me, a winning culture means that you can win relatively consistently without an all-time great QB. Denver has won very little throughout history without one. They also drafted neither and have never drafted a good QB.
As for KC fans, the difference is that they weren't boasting about a winning culture then. They were bitter and self-deprecating. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Having some accomplishments doesn't mean that the organization consistently makes good decisions.
I'm sure you've noticed plenty of Denver fans bashing the Seattle organization, despite the fact that they've been consistent winners for years.
To me, a winning culture means that you can win relatively consistently without an all-time great QB. Denver has won very little throughout history without one. They also drafted neither and have never drafted a good QB.
As for KC fans, the difference is that they weren't boasting about a winning culture then. They were bitter and self-deprecating.
When did Seattle win consistently without an all-time great QB? [Reply]
Well, I keep fucking bringing it up because you all refuse to address the enormous elephant in the room.
Hackett didn't learn from the best or the brightest, and just about the only bright spot on his resume was working through the machine that is a veteran QB like Aaron Rodgers and an offense-minded head coach. Everything else he touched seems to be dogshit.
If I were Denver fans, I'd be very worried. He's hardly a boy genius, and more than likely, he just doesn't have the leadership skills or the personality to be a head coach. That's a recipe for disaster.
I don't know who your other coaches are, but you guys better hope they're miracle workers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Having some accomplishments doesn't mean that the organization consistently makes good decisions.
I'm sure you've noticed plenty of Denver fans bashing the Seattle organization, despite the fact that they've been consistent winners for years.
To me, a winning culture means that you can win relatively consistently without an all-time great QB. Denver has won very little throughout history without one. They also drafted neither and have never drafted a good QB.
As for KC fans, the difference is that they weren't boasting about a winning culture then. They were bitter and self-deprecating.
We were not discussing good decision history. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Well, I keep fucking bringing it up because you all refuse to address the enormous elephant in the room.
Hackett didn't learn from the best or the brightest, and just about the only bright spot on his resume was working through the machine that is a veteran QB like Aaron Rodgers and an offense-minded head coach. Everything else he touched seems to be dogshit.
If I were Denver fans, I'd be very worried. He's hardly a boy genius, and more than likely, he just doesn't have the leadership skills or the personality to be a head coach. That's a recipe for disaster.
I don't know who your other coaches are, but you guys better hope they're miracle workers.
Broncos announced today that Walmart stores worldwide will only carry Bronco gear starting this season. All other pleb teams will have to hock their Wares through the online Walmart store provided they pay tribute [Reply]
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
Broncos announced today that Walmart stores worldwide will only carry Bronco gear starting this season. All other pleb teams will have to hock their Wares through the online Walmart store provided they pay tribute
Sounds about right... they have a glut of them since they have been MIA for 6 seasons. [Reply]
