I brought this up in the MNF thread so I assume it wasn't seen by many.
Teams are going to have to try something different the way onside kicks are done now the odds of recovery is basically zero.
I proposed the idea of the kicker just drilling it as hard as he possibly can right at one of the upmen, no way dude is catching it then you get a live ball deflection.
Originally Posted by Balto:
How about putting a large(but not to large) bucket/Net off the ground but near the goal line out of bounds. If the kicker can kick off and put the ball in the bucket/Net the team gets the ball back!
The downside of trying this? If the kicker misses than of course the kickoff would be considered out of bounds and the returning team gets the ball on the 45 yard line thus making this option only for end game type of thing.
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Something like that.
You should probably stick to trade scenarios for MVS. You're better at those. [Reply]
The best fake kick is the Louis Aguilar one where he slapped the ball hard to mimick the kick sound then skied it high like a punt and our receiver just caught it while the other team was waiting to fair catch.
Wouldn’t work on kickoff/onside kick but sure was sweet.
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That was fun back in the day...
There was a game, I think it was on Sega, where you could inject guys with steroids but if you gave them too many they died. The injuries were brutal; broken necks and fractured sculls. You could Alex Smith dudes.
I wish theyd go back to the old rules. It was still a pretty low chance, anywhere from 8-22% but it was a chance. And it was more fun. The NFL claims safety is the issue but I just dont remember guys getting hurt a lot from onside kicks. I could be wrong. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lcarus:
I wish theyd go back to the old rules. It was still a pretty low chance, anywhere from 8-22% but it was a chance. And it was more fun. The NFL claims safety is the issue but I just dont remember guys getting hurt a lot from onside kicks. I could be wrong.
The rule change was about the safety of kickoffs in general, and onside kicks are a specific type of kickoff. You can't really have special rules for onside kicks without forcing a team to somehow declare their intentions, which defeats the purpose of gaining an advantage with the element of surprise. [Reply]
Was coaching youth football here and tried the kick it at someone on the front line thing a few years ago, it worked but also wasn’t expected and had never seen it done before. I didn’t actually think it would work cause at that age group 12u at the time the accuracy of kickers was pretty bad. That said it did work the first time, tried it again later in the season on an expected play and it failed miserably though.
NFL kickers should be able to locate the ball way better though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
There was a game, I think it was on Sega, where you could inject guys with steroids but if you gave them too many they died. The injuries were brutal; broken necks and fractured sculls. You could Alex Smith dudes.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
The rule change was about the safety of kickoffs in general, and onside kicks are a specific type of kickoff. You can't really have special rules for onside kicks without forcing a team to somehow declare their intentions, which defeats the purpose of gaining an advantage with the element of surprise.
Teams are forced to declare their intentions on extra points now and that takes away the ability to surprise the other team with a fake. Besides, the onside kick at any time other than end game desperation is extremely rare. Having a team declare is no big deal if what you want to do is give the trailing team some kind of hope at the end. [Reply]