Do I have to make a splash? Or can I just keep using it to try to keep a good young defense intact and work in the margins?
Because I don't really want to give a FA wide receiver big money and long-term and I DEFINITELY don't want to give a FA defensive player a big deal either; those go bad WAY more often than they don't.
But I've really liked the development of Danna. I think Sneed can be had on a deal we can get out of after 3 years (he was an older rookie; he'll be 27 next year so term matters).
I'd rather hang onto the guys we've seen succeed and grow here than take what's behind door #2.
Lets do that and then find a middle class contract for an interior DL like Teair Tart. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
If im making a splash, that splash is a trade up for Marvin Harrison Jr.
We don't have enough draft capital to trade up to the 2nd pick unless we promise 2 future 1st rd picks and a few 2's and 3's because we will be picking very low in the future drafts because we win. But I like your idea:-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
We don't have enough draft capital to trade up to the 2nd pick unless we promise 2 future 1st rd picks and a few 2's and 3's because we will be picking very low in the future drafts because we win. But I like your idea:-)
Do you think our 1 and a tag and trade of Jones might do it for a team picking high? [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Do you think our 1 and a tag and trade of Jones might do it for a team picking high?
I think your 'blue chip' prospects tend to defeat any draft calculator.
I don't think anybody is prying 1.1 out of whoever gets it. Now maybe if a QB needy team lands at 1.2, you could overpay to move up there and take Harrison Jr but that teams STILL not going to want to fall any lower than 3 for Drake Maye.
When you have 3 really really good guys at the top of the draft, 2 of whom appear to be legit 'franchise' quarterbacks (as opposed to Bryce Young) then you have a really difficult draft board to break into.
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'd rather go up for a LT but there are gonna be some really good DL prospects in this draft too.
It looks like a really good draft to me.
I'd really like to give Bert more firepower, not less. A trade up involving some of next year's capital wouldn't bother me greatly (but wouldn't move you up much in the first) but i don't think I want to take any bullets out of his gun in the 2024 draft class. It looks awfully strong. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Do I have to make a splash? Or can I just keep using it to try to keep a good young defense intact and work in the margins?
Because I don't really want to give a FA wide receiver big money and long-term and I DEFINITELY don't want to give a FA defensive player a big deal either; those go bad WAY more often than they don't.
But I've really liked the development of Danna. I think Sneed can be had on a deal we can get out of after 3 years (he was an older rookie; he'll be 27 next year so term matters).
I'd rather hang onto the guys we've seen succeed and grow here than take what's behind door #2.
Lets do that and then find a middle class contract for an interior DL like Teair Tart.
Well said. Probably a more articulate way of saying what I was getting at. I'll be a value guy as long as we have Mahomes.
Other than Mahomes, most of our eite guys were "flyers"
Kelce - 3rd
Jones - 2nd
Sneed - 7th
Bolton - 2nd
Those types are available. Keep taking those swings. Make splashes that way.
Obviously we paid for Thuney and Taylor. Those moves are still going to be necessary, but we need to seek value. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Well said. Probably a more articulate way of saying what I was getting at. I'll be a value guy as long as we have Mahomes.
Other than Mahomes, most of our eite guys were "flyers"
Kelce - 3rd
Jones - 2nd
Sneed - 7th
Bolton - 2nd
Those types are available. Keep taking those swings. Make splashes that way.
Obviously we paid for Thuney and Taylor. Those moves are still going to be necessary, but we need to seek value.
I'd just prefer to not have to keep bandaiding the LT spot, but if Wanya could developed there that would be huge. Honestly, that's the route I'd probably take just from a cost standpoint. He may not ever be an actual high end LT, but even if he's 80% of an elite player, you're gaining alot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I partially agree. I think the best scenario is to sign our guys Jones, Gay, & Sneed + Mike Evans (Splash) who we acquire for something like MVS + a 3rd. Evans is a stalwart vet WR, who probably won't break the bank due to his age. I think Evans is currently getting $16m in 2023, MVS is scheduled to make $14m in 2024...gross. Maybe we have enough money left over to sign a vet RB to pair with Pachecco as well. Use our high caliber draft picks on OT & DL. Thrive.
2024
Mahomes
Pachecco
[Dobbins]
Kelce
Gray
Bell
[Evans]
Toney
Moore
Rice
Watson
Ross
[1st RD OT]
Thuney
Humfrey
Smith
Smith/Morris
Karlaftis/Danna
[2nd RD DT]/Coburn
Jones
Omenihu/FAU
Alternatively, if our OTs work out and we don't pull off a trade for a vet before the deadline we can go 1st RD WR & 2nd RD DT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I think your 'blue chip' prospects tend to defeat any draft calculator.
I don't think anybody is prying 1.1 out of whoever gets it. Now maybe if a QB needy team lands at 1.2, you could overpay to move up there and take Harrison Jr but that teams STILL not going to want to fall any lower than 3 for Drake Maye.
When you have 3 really really good guys at the top of the draft, 2 of whom appear to be legit 'franchise' quarterbacks (as opposed to Bryce Young) then you have a really difficult draft board to break into.
I just don't see it happening.
I don't know if you have to get to 2, or even to 10, to get a really good WR this year. Nabers, Egbuka, and Odunze all look like quality players. As an OSU fan, I absolutely love Harrison Jr but I also know that is a dream that will never come true. Alt would be my next top want and he's probably a pipe dream too.
My semi-reasonable dreams at this juncture are probably Ebuka at WR or Newton at DT. [Reply]