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Nzoner's Game Room>Tamba drops a deuce on Alex Smith
T-post Tom 04:27 PM 05-11-2024

Tamba Hali recently admitted that, at times when Patrick Mahomes was on the bench behind Alex Smith in 2017, Chiefs players wanted Mahomes to play. https://t.co/U9kNvalVfY

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I'll throw Florio a bone on this one... or maybe an anvil?
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ThaVirus 06:13 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by penchief:
I told my brothers after the Titans playoff loss in 2017 that if the chiefs had really wanted to win, they should have played Mahomes.

The way he tore up the league all throughout 2018, there is no doubt in my mind that those playoff defenses would not have had an enough time to figure out how to defend him.
I’d be surprised if we got past New England anyhow.

As the next season confirmed, we weren’t really ready for them just yet.
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penchief 06:15 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I don’t think anyone disagrees with this. Even at the time, it seemed like it may have been the case.

I just don’t think there’s anyone to blame but Reid. Full stop. How would you ever hold this against Alex Smith?

And do you guys want to hold this as a black mark against Reid?
It's definitely on Reid. I think if he had to do it over again, he'd probably do it differently. I think Reid felt he was being prudent by not throwing Mahomes into the playoff fire after not starting all year. But Pat has proven since that the moment would not have been too big for him.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 06:16 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by Bump:
They must have been in awe when they first saw Mahomes play
Kelce talked about it. Couldn't believe there was a rookie just slingin it with the scout team during practice. Reportedly he also made Justin Houston look silly during practice one day.

Safe to say, the team knew what they had going into next season.
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TwistedChief 06:18 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I’d be surprised if we got past New England anyhow.

As the next season confirmed, we weren’t really ready for them just yet.
Counterpoint: Reid wrecked Belichick in the NFL opener in that season with Alex when the Patriots didn’t know what was coming with Hill and Hunt. If they busted Mahomes out in the playoffs, that might’ve done the trick timing-wise to not give defenses the time to adjust properly.
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Red Dawg 06:30 PM 05-11-2024
Mahomes could have broken every rookie record. They kept their word to Smith and we have 3 more title so it hardly matters.
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GeorgeZimZam 06:41 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
So you’re blaming him for the fact that Reid kept him as the QB? Is that his fault?

And the “slobberfest” just might, might be a function of the fact that the guy was mangled on the field and nearly died from being septic yet eventually worked his way back to play again. That’s nauseating? You’d rather blame him for the fact that he was a complete professional dedicated to the team who just didn’t have the generational talent of his predecessor?

Again, blame Reid and Veach. They were running things in 2017 and kept Alex as the starter. He didn’t sulk and throw a fit demanding that role because of his “feels.”
lol bro, i'm simply not into alex smith...there is nothing about it worth psychoanalyzing or worrying about. i'm sure you have your own guys you just don't care for also. to each their own.

also, your downvote only makes my loathing of alex smith that much stronger :-)


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stevieray 06:57 PM 05-11-2024
That’s nice but totally irrelevant.!Reid wanted him to follow Alex and Mahomes had nothing but praise for that decision.
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TwistedChief 05-11-2024, 07:03 PM
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Jewish Rabbi 07:06 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam:
lol bro, i'm simply not into alex smith...there is nothing about it worth psychoanalyzing or worrying about. i'm sure you have your own guys you just don't care for also. to each their own.

also, your downvote only makes my loathing of alex smith that much stronger :-)

Do u have video of the pooping
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wazu 07:11 PM 05-11-2024
We'll never know what that alternate universe might have looked like, but it seems improbable that it could have been as great as the one we Chiefs fans live in today. The one game Mahomes played in 2017 was amazing and fed him experience and confidence. Then the absolute explosion in 2018 propelled him into super stardom. Has any first or second year player ever had a season anywhere close to that? Makes it hard to argue that any other path to developing and starting Mahomes could have been better.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 07:32 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by wazu:
We'll never know what that alternate universe might have looked like, but it seems improbable that it could have been as great as the one we Chiefs fans live in today. The one game Mahomes played in 2017 was amazing and fed him experience and confidence. Then the absolute explosion in 2018 propelled him into super stardom. Has any first or second year player ever had a season anywhere close to that? Makes it hard to argue that any other path to developing and starting Mahomes could have been better.
Yeah, this discussion comes up and we all just assume Mahomes would've won a super bowl his rookie year and everything else would've played out the exact same. No one seems to understand the butterfly effect, EVERYTHING from that point on would've been drastically different, very likely worse than where we are right now.

Mahomes very likely was better than Smith his rookie year, but I wouldn't change any of that. What we have now unequivocally is the best timeline, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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GeorgeZimZam 07:32 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
Do u have video of the pooping
the video file is password protected and silly me, I forgot the password...could have sworn it was something along the lines of scatbackfever1! but no luck yet. do you think the geek squad could crack it?
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Fish 07:34 PM 05-11-2024
Smith sucks.

Water under the bridge.
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Tribal Warfare 07:41 PM 05-11-2024

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Titty Meat 07:48 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Alex Smith deserved to be shit on.
Why?
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ThyKingdomCome15 07:56 PM 05-11-2024
Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
So glad the Chiefs didn't give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor! :-)
For a point of reference I figured Mahomes would be the starter by mid season. Coulda, shoulda, woulda but it appears others felt the same. It's not a surprise. :-)
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