Well, the biggest gripe by far over the years has been playoff success... and even including Mahomes' success, they're still in the bottom 3rd of the league in playoff win percentage. For decades it was "striving for mediocrity".
Chiefs, Bears, and Vikings are the 3 teams with good regular season success and terrible playoff results overall... they would have to win like 15 straight playoff games to be in the same realm as SF or NE. [Reply]
I know the Lions are the automatic go-to team for a quick joke about shit hole franchises, but I'd make the argument that the Cardinals are actually historically the biggest trash heap of failure in the NFL. At least the Lions had those championships in the 50s. The Cardinals are 10 years older than the Lions and they only have 7 more total wins as a franchise?
Also, here's a bit of trivia for ya'll: The Cardinals have been around 100+ years and have never once had a coach last longer than 5 seasons.
The Cardinals coach with the most franchise wins was Bruce Arians.
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Well, the biggest gripe by far over the years has been playoff success... and even including Mahomes' success, they're still in the bottom 3rd of the league in playoff win percentage. For decades it was "striving for mediocrity".
Chiefs, Bears, and Vikings are the 3 teams with good regular season success and terrible playoff results overall... they would have to win like 15 straight playoff games to be in the same realm as SF or NE.
Yeah, we are #22 in all-time playoff win percentage.
When you consider the fact that we've been to four straight AFCCGs recently, it goes to show how truly terrible we were up until recently. We are gaining ground now, though.
Of the teams ahead of us in playoff win percentage, the Bills, Jaguars and Panthers have still never won a Super Bowl.
The 49ers, Raiders, Dolphins, Jets, Cowboys, Commanders and Bears, who are all above us in win %, haven't won a Super Bowl in 30+ years.
I'd say, when you consider everything, KC is probably a fringe top 10 NFL franchise. [Reply]
You could make a strong case that the HC of the other 3 teams in our division all deserve to be fired.
Wilson trade was a huge rape job, the Adams and Chandler additions have barely helped at all and the Chargers are about to pay Herbert.
All the while the Chiefs offloaded cap, have more draft picks and are still a top team. This is still our division for as long as Veach, Andy and Patrick are here together [Reply]
Originally Posted by KChiefs1: Chiefs rush defense through 3 games in 2021:
160 rush ypg, (5.4 yards per rush), 7 rushing TDs.
Chiefs rush defense through 3 games in 2022:
87 rush ypg, (3.6 yards per rush), 1 rushing TD.
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What changed?
Though it can be noted that the Chiefs have vastly improved in an area that they previously struggled the question of “why?” remains. The improvement is most likely due to two factors, the first being the addition of Joe Cullen, the new defensive line coach. Cullen has been coaching since 1992 and his resume includes stints with five different NFL teams. Bringing that type of experience to a position group can’t be overrated.
Secondly, the credit for the Chiefs’ success against the run should also be given to second-year linebacker Nick Bolton who has earned the starting role this year. Bolton, the former Mizzou Tiger great, is a tackling machine as last year he led all rookies and Chiefs players in tackles with 112 (72 solo and 40 assisted). He has continued his success to start the year, currently leading the Chiefs’ defense with 37 tackles (25 solo and 12 assisted).
Fans might finally be getting the chance to embrace a new reality, one in which opposing teams aren’t able to effectively run the ball, bleed the clock, and keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. The Chiefs’ success against the run in the first four weeks presents a shift toward the team becoming more complete as a whole, rather than the offense being overly relied upon as they have in the past. Though it’s doubtful they will finish the year with the best rush defense in the league, this improvement is a great step in the right direction and will ultimately help the Chiefs find success in cold weather games later in the season.
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Yeah, we are #22 in all-time playoff win percentage.
When you consider the fact that we've been to four straight AFCCGs recently, it goes to show how truly terrible we were up until recently. We are gaining ground now, though.
Of the teams ahead of us in playoff win percentage, the Bills, Jaguars and Panthers have still never won a Super Bowl.
The 49ers, Raiders, Dolphins, Jets, Cowboys, Commanders and Bears, who are all above us in win %, haven't won a Super Bowl in 30+ years.
I'd say, when you consider everything, KC is probably a fringe top 10 NFL franchise.
There are 14 teams with more playoff wins than KC currently. But the Chiefs are only a few good runs away from being top 5ish. There are really only 5 franchises that have separated from the pack historically. After those you have a bunch of teams that hover around .500 in the postseason. [Reply]
Just checking in on this gauntlet of a division, considering the Chargers and Broncos lost today and the Raiders needed three 4th quarter touchdowns to beat a 1-win team.... and feeling a bit salty after that win.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
People viciously attacked me. My characterization of the Chiefs as the cast of Entourage was on point.
A middle of the pack to lower TEAM with a cheat code at QB.
But that's what fans clamored for, because building a TEAM fell short.
Well, it's inarguably that now. . . . Vinny Chase and a shitload of Turtles ubering it around. . . Hope Medillin is a BLOCKBUSTER!!
Originally Posted by TEX:
1. Chargers
2. Raiders
3. KC
4. Donx
That's how I see it now. Trading Reek was foolish. Varch is full of himself on this one. Sorry, just no silver lining for me. Hill was the best game-changer in the league. Now gone. You don't replace that.
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I mean unless you are a Chiefs homer, the odds the Chiefs win the division are certainly below 50%. They may be ON PAR with the Broncos or just below.
It's possible no team in the division has a good chance to win it just based on how good every team is.
Broncos 35%
Chiefs 30%
Chargers 25%
Raiders 10%
Originally Posted by wazu:
As to the original question I don't really know. I guess I'll still pick the Chiefs to win the division, but it's close with the Chargers, and possibly also with the Broncos. My rankings right now would I guess be:
1. Chiefs
2. Chargers
3. Broncos
4. Raiders
Probably some homerism here, but the Chiefs have so thoroughly dominated this division I feel like the Chargers need to prove they can close the deal before I actually pick them. The biggest unknown is how the coaching situations play out for the Broncos and Raiders.
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Best in the West until proven otherwise.
People love to make early season projections on the Chargers and how ‘this’ is finally the year. And then the Chargers charger, every fucking year. We know how that story ends . . . .
The Raiders were seemingly on the rise back in 2017 and then remembered they were the Raiders. Yeah, they made the playoffs this last season, but does anyone really take them seriously? That defense is putrid.
That leaves the Donkos bringing up the rear. So they trade away a boatload of premium draft picks, a couple nice players for an aging declining QB that’s not the same guy now and struggled behind Seattle’s awful O-Line. Now he gets to go play for . . . . . . . wait for it . . . . . . . Denver’s awful O-Line. Fascinating. A decent defense that lost their defensive wizard (yes, he sucked as a head coach), hired a rookie head coach because he was ARod’s OC and they were banking on him coming to Denver. Now they’ve invested in their pass rush and banking on Chubb and Gregory to provide the majority of the pressure, two guys that can barely stay on the field. I’m sure this will end well for them.
