- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
They thought he was perfect for the system despite the lack of physical skills, but it's just not happening. Rice is what Moore was supposed to be, and he no longer serves any purpose. His chances of making the team are basically non existent.
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
They thought he was perfect for the system despite the lack of physical skills, but it's just not happening. Rice is what Moore was supposed to be, and he no longer serves any purpose. His chances of making the team are basically non existent.
Bye, Skyy.
Yep, he's had 2 years of development. Not showing a damn thing more than when he was drafted. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I recall him doing a combine interview with NFL radio before he got drafted. I was listening to it and I was like, "This guy screams shitty Belichick WR"
Everything he said was about his team approach and his selflessness and his work ethic. The bells rang in my head and signaled a player who knew he possessed no elite physical traits to play the position. For certain positions you can hear that kind of talk and go, "Well, he seems nice. Let's see what he can do on the team." For others, like WR, you DON'T want that kind of attitude. At all. You want to hear the diva talk and the "I'm the ****ing greatest, bitch" and all that other stuff. But he didn't give even a whiff of it. And at that moment I was like, "Good thing our GM doesn't draft shit players like this."
I convinced myself when we took him that I was wrong and how that was an unfair assessment based on one interview. I ate up that college separation rate bullshit stat that got passed around. And mostly, I was adamant that he be given a fair shake which might mean getting a full redshirt year his first season.
He got a fair shake. He got two years of a shake. That's more than most players get.
It's okay. GMs will miss on players. They all do. And it's not like the guy didn't try hard. It didn't work out. He had a dream of playing in the NFL, and he got there, but he flamed out. Nothing personal. But, yeah... he does need to go away.
I still don't see how he was evaluated as a 2nd round talent. I merely assumed the Chiefs saw something in him and trusted their player evaluation. It's really baffling though because, he's not big, he's not strong, he's not fast, he has shitty hands, he doesn't track the ball well, he runs shitty routes, he has zero football IQ, he went to a small school that plays against mediocre competition, AND he didn't even played RB until sometime in his college career IIRC.
Like WTF warrants a second round grade there?
I give DJ a shitload of credit there. He recognized it right away and called it out. [Reply]
The draft nerds were all over him too. Dane Brugler called him the best route runner in the draft IIRC. And route running is literally his worst trait. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The draft nerds were all over him too. Dane Brugler called him the best route runner in the draft IIRC. And route running is literally his worst trait.
— Consistently plays balanced with good quickness and body control.
— Shows polish on the routes he is asked to run. Maintains speed coming out of breaks and understands how to stay friendly to the quarterback on his breaks.
— Flashes the quickness and play strength to beat press coverage. Keeps corners off-balanced.
— Tracks deep balls and can make the awkward catch. Is able to adjust for catches at all angles and come down with the ball.
— Good hands. Snatches throws and rarely loses speed to create after the catch.
—.Competitive. Fights as a blocker.
— Aligned both inside and outside. Was also used on jet sweeps.
NEGATIVES
— Below-average height for the position.
— Limited route tree because of RPO heavy offense.
2021 STATISTICS
12 G, 95 REC, 1292 YDS (13.6 AVG), 10 TD
NOTES
— 2021 first team All-MAC
OVERALL
Moore aligned outside and in the slot at the college level. He does not have great height, but he does have a solidly built frame that allows him to play through contact while running routes. Moore also showed polish on the routes he was asked to run in Western Michigan’s RPO-heavy scheme. With consistent glimpses of his body control when breaking on routes, Moore understood how to stay friendly to the QB and would work himself into favorable positions.
Moore is more of an above-average-to-good athlete. While he constantly displays his quickness, balance and body control with his route running and when adjusting for throws away from his body, he doesn’t have a true top-end gear and doesn’t truly burst out of his route breaks or with the ball in his hands after the catch. Being more on the “quicker rather than fast” side, he is able to win versus press coverage and will open up the possibilities of being able to operate on the outside even with his below-average height. [Reply]
I still remember the day he was drafted. I have never in my life been more pissed about a draft pick. I mean, i don't even really really get mad when the Chiefs take someone i don't like or wasn't expecting.
But that day....i was HEEEEAAAATED. I remember pacing my backyard, pissed off, smoking a blunt trying to relax.
I think it took me like 2 hours to chill. My wife and son got it the worst, with my rants, lol. They got an earful.
But even still, i thought that he'd at least be a 500 yard a season guy. I thought the Chiefs would get at least that out of him. I was wrong. [Reply]
Originally Posted by crispystl: I still don't see how he was evaluated as a 2nd round talent. I merely assumed the Chiefs saw something in him and trusted their player evaluation. It's really baffling though because, he's not big, he's not strong, he's not fast, he has shitty hands, he doesn't track the ball well, he runs shitty routes, he has zero football IQ, he went to a small school that plays against mediocre competition, AND he didn't even played RB until sometime in his college career IIRC.
Like WTF warrants a second round grade there?
I give DJ a shitload of credit there. He recognized it right away and called it out.
You know how college prospects will get a star added to their rankings based on their offer list? That's how.
Some kid will be a 3 star prospect then Texas and Alabama will offer him and Rivals, sight unseen, will give him a 4th star because "Hey, if UT and Bama want him, he's obviously at least a 4-star..."
The Chiefs, even before the B2B, were among the most respected organizations in football. Reid was certainly viewed as at worst the 2nd best offensive coach in the game (McVay was getting pumped off a lot at the time).
So we drafted him and the draft folks gave him a 4th star. Had the Cardinals taken him, I don't think you see that kind of hype fly up around him.
And to be fair on my analysis of him, even I didn't think he'd be THIS bad. I thought he'd be an average NFL player with a long learning curve so I was thinking 3rd rounder or 4th round value IIRC. I didn't expect him to flat fucking suck. Maybe just take longer than a 2nd rounder should to make an impact and ultimately be a fairly limited guy.
But I did note that the small school thing meant his floor was 'out of the league before his rookie contract' and sho 'nuff, that seems awfully likely to happen. Sometimes the floor is what ya get... [Reply]
Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
I still remember the day he was drafted. I have never in my life been more pissed about a draft pick. I mean, i don't even really really get mad when the Chiefs take someone i don't like or wasn't expecting.
But that day....i was HEEEEAAAATED. I remember pacing my backyard, pissed off, smoking a blunt trying to relax.
I think it took me like 2 hours to chill. My wife and son got it the worst, with my rants, lol. They got an earful.
But even still, i thought that he'd at least be a 500 yard a season guy. I thought the Chiefs would get at least that out of him. I was wrong.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Fellas, I think this dude is cooked.
Nate Taylor's saying he's presently behind Toney, Remigio and ROSS. That's 4 dudes fighting for, IMO, 1 spot. And he's 4th on the list right now.
That's a bad sign for a guy coming into his '3rd year breakout' season and competing with Remigio, who missed the entire season and Ross who simply hasn't played much at all. Toney was gonna be a tough guy for him to get ahead of anyway, IMO. But if he's presently trailing those other two, the guy is toast.
Yeah, that's not great. I really, really was pulling for him this time last year, but in his case the proof is in the pudding. And he's already dropping passes in manners that Remigio is catching them?
Calling it right now, 7-24-24.........He gone.
Originally Posted by New World Order:
This guy will be better than Justin Jefferson
He has a very good chance to be promoted higher at Primerica than Jefferson will ever have. [Reply]
— Consistently plays balanced with good quickness and body control.
— Shows polish on the routes he is asked to run. Maintains speed coming out of breaks and understands how to stay friendly to the quarterback on his breaks.
— Flashes the quickness and play strength to beat press coverage. Keeps corners off-balanced.
— Tracks deep balls and can make the awkward catch. Is able to adjust for catches at all angles and come down with the ball.
— Good hands. Snatches throws and rarely loses speed to create after the catch.
—.Competitive. Fights as a blocker.
— Aligned both inside and outside. Was also used on jet sweeps.
NEGATIVES
— Below-average height for the position.
— Limited route tree because of RPO heavy offense.
2021 STATISTICS
12 G, 95 REC, 1292 YDS (13.6 AVG), 10 TD
NOTES
— 2021 first team All-MAC
OVERALL
Moore aligned outside and in the slot at the college level. He does not have great height, but he does have a solidly built frame that allows him to play through contact while running routes. Moore also showed polish on the routes he was asked to run in Western Michigan’s RPO-heavy scheme. With consistent glimpses of his body control when breaking on routes, Moore understood how to stay friendly to the QB and would work himself into favorable positions.
Moore is more of an above-average-to-good athlete. While he constantly displays his quickness, balance and body control with his route running and when adjusting for throws away from his body, he doesn’t have a true top-end gear and doesn’t truly burst out of his route breaks or with the ball in his hands after the catch. Being more on the “quicker rather than fast” side, he is able to win versus press coverage and will open up the possibilities of being able to operate on the outside even with his below-average height.
There had to be a mixup. Surely the bolded part was describing a different WR. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
The draft nerds were all over him too. Dane Brugler called him the best route runner in the draft IIRC. And route running is literally his worst trait.
Yes that was what I heard when he came out too. Ran amazing crisp routes. Couldn't be further from the truth. Only draft WR's from real college football programs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Yes that was what I heard when he came out too. Ran amazing crisp routes. Couldn't be further from the truth. Only draft WR's from real college football programs.
I read your first three sentences and thought, "Hey maybe a light bulb is going off for Bwillie and he's starting to get it".
And then you wrote your 4th sentence and i was like, "Ah fuck it, whatever..." [Reply]