Not sure what's more amusing here:
a. the notion that there's some correlation between a team's recent success and their fanbase's acceptance of signing Kareem Hunt
OR
b. that you really, deeply believe one exists
I stated that their culture prior to Dorsey is a losing culture, and had been for far longer than the Chiefs. The point is that the fans in those tweets clearly don't understand what it takes to have a winning franchise, similar in many ways to some Chiefs fans. If they can't accept a talent like Hunt on a sweetheart deal, then they are in fact too stupid to appreciate what has been tossed in their lap, and should probably pull their "factory of sadness" T-shirts out of the closet, and wear them loud and proud.
This isn't war, this isn't life or death either, it's a professional game. And the purpose of a professional game is to win, NOT impart life-lessons to players, fans, or their little kids either. Fuck that shit. Learn that shit from Mom and Dad like you're supposed to because Kareem Hunt didn't go to college to become a fucking Kindergarten teacher. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
I stated that their culture prior to Dorsey is a losing culture, and had been for far longer than the Chiefs. The point is that the fans in those tweets clearly don't understand what it takes to have a winning franchise, similar in many ways to some Chiefs fans. If they can't accept a talent like Hunt on a sweetheart deal, then they are in fact too stupid to appreciate what has been tossed in their lap, and should probably pull their "factory of sadness" T-shirts out of the closet, and wear them loud and proud.
This isn't war, this isn't life or death either, it's a professional game. And the purpose of a professional game is to win, NOT impart life-lessons to players, fans, or their little kids either. **** that shit. Learn that shit from Mom and Dad like you're supposed to because Kareem Hunt didn't go to college to become a ****ing Kindergarten teacher.
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
And the purpose of a professional game is to win, NOT impart life-lessons to players, fans, or their little kids either.
By that blanket standard, if Tyreek Hill abused his pregnant wife again, we should welcome him back with open arms because he's a talented WR. We should celebrate the Patriots and their ingenuity in cheating. We should applaud the McGwires and Sosas of the baseball world who gave us the steroid era because they too understood that winning is the only thing that matters.
I'm glad the bulk of the universe does not subscribe to your worldview or it would make for a dark picture of humanity. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief: By that blanket standard, if Tyreek Hill abused his pregnant wife again, we should welcome him back with open arms because he's a talented WR. We should celebrate the Patriots and their ingenuity in cheating. We should applaud the McGwires and Sosas of the baseball world who gave us the steroid era because they too understood that winning is the only thing that matters.
I'm glad the bulk of the universe does not subscribe to your worldview or it would make for a dark picture of humanity.
And you miss the point entirely. Are you hiring Tyreek Hill to be your sons life coach?
Again, the purpose of the professional game is to WIN. There is no other purpose. And if the reports coming out of Kentucky this morning are true, I'm glad my head coach, owner, GM, and D-coord realize this as well. That's a nice bit of "un-Chiefs" nasty hardball down there, and I'll take it!
If the "nice Chiefs" era is over, and I believe it truly is, then thank God for it. It was LONG overdue.
Now, let's send someone to break in to BB's office and get that "book of creative cheating" you know he has stashed away in his office safe.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
While some of you are in here crying about the Chiefs cutting Hunt, Reid and Clark are putting together and All-Star defensive staff.
Fuck Hunt. Fuck Peters. We don’t need either of those guys to get the job done.
Agreed. "Nasty Chiefs" are in the house now and taking no fucking prisoners, being a bitch to NO man.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
While some of you are in here crying about the Chiefs cutting Hunt, Reid and Clark are putting together and All-Star defensive staff.
**** Hunt. **** Peters. We don’t need either of those guys to get the job done.
I think we beat the Pats if CHunt doesn’t trade Peters for a bag of dicks and Hunt doesn’t go Super Saiyan on that chick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd:
No, we should get no compensation at all for this.
The NFL NEVER asked us to let go of the best runner of the league for free.
It was a PC move aimed at earning us some general consensus and to please the media, so we already got AMPLE compensation.
Sure, you don't win Superbowls out of PC and general consensus, but that's an altogether different matter, and one that don't seem so high on the priority list of whoever decided to "donate" the top running back of the league to some other team.
I'm not questioning Mahomes being a generational talent, but matter of fact his stats have changed quite a bit since Hunt is gone.
Williams is a good running back, but not one you need to plan and double against.
That's why he made good numbers, and something that should be remembered every time we will see linebackers blitzing with DB playing man to man next year, same as the pats did on the AFCCG, because there was no Hunt to look out for.
We all know next year stats for Mahomes won't be the same as this year, and we will basically have a one-dimensional offense, with an average running back who can run for a fair gain here and there thrown in for good measure.
Given our offensive line, a RB who can make yards after contact (which Williams is not) is worth his weight in gold.
This stupid decision to release Hunt is one that will come back to bite us when it hurts the most, same as it did in the AFCCG this year.
Hope (and think) the "new" defense can make up for that, nonetheless letting Hunt go is something we will regret for a long time.
In football, the value of "said business" is STRICTLY AND DIRECTLY related to the number of Superbowls you win.
And yes, in order to win multiple Superbowls you certainly have to be "desperate" about it. This hardly comes as a "byproduct" of management aimed at general consensus.
Another on the $$$ post here. The Patriots as a franchise are second in value on the to the Dallas Cowboys. That's according to Forbes. The bottom five???? Bucs, Browns, Bungles, Lions, and Bills. Five teams that have 1 Superbowl win in between them. Clark made a decision that his image and his franchise image was more important than winning. So he discarded KH for nothing and Dorsey picked up the fumble. The Steelers still haven't L. Bell. In fact it sounds like they are going to tag him again in efforts get some compensation. Why let an All-Pro running back walk for nothing??? But silver-spoon Clark Hunt??? He didn't build the franchise, is not a football guy, and is more concerned about running a "respectable business" than winning. The shame is that there is a large group of Chiefs fans that are ok with that:-). [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
There are posters above acting like he made the difference between us winning and not winning the Super Bowl this year because we released him. He wasn't playing regardless of what we did.
As for 2019 and beyond, I just don't give that much of a ****. Kareem Hunt realistically plays at most another season and a half of football for us if we don't cut him. Considering the fact that he's a RB, it just doesn't matter that much to me. We can easily find a suitable replacement, if we haven't already in Damien Williams.
What in the **** does CTE have to do with any of it? He's an asshole when he's drunk. That's it.
I guess everybody missed where the SECOND Hunt signed, he went back to the commissioner's exempt list.
It's pretty freaking simple:
HE WASN'T PLAYING AGAIN IN 2018. PERIOD.
He wouldn't have been able to play against the Patriots. He's on the EXEMPT LIST.
And he'll be on the exempt list, which means he can't even report to team facilities, until the NFL finishes their investigation. At that point, it appears he's going to get 4 games for each incident now, so he won't even be able to REPORT until the first of DECEMBER.
This place gets dumber by the minute.
As a human being, I sincerely hope Kareem Hunt is getting the help he needs. Having worked with so many youngsters struggling with the stuff he does, going to Cleveland sure seems like a really bad idea. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
This is a dumb thing to meltdown over. Spend 20 years on these forums complaining that RBs are overrated and don't lead to championships, and what we need is a QB, and now we're doing just that and everyone loses their mind. If this was Mahomes there'd be a valid point here. But to sit here and use words like "generational talent" like the guy is Barry Sanders or Walter Payton is just way overdramatic. Hunt's a talented guy though and hopefully he's truly changed as a person.
Dude has multiple incidents that are being investigated and he lied about them on top of it. We have an all world offense, the best QB in the world and a coach who has a long history of finding All Star level running back talent. Draft another RB and get to work. If the Chiefs fail it's because Mahomes got hurt or Veach never fixed the defense.
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
No, I’m not. Can you provide a link and a list of the players who have tested positive for CTE and have been traded?
Legit request.
No, I'm sorry, I can't.
Basically, because these data are not released in phone calls, as you suggested CHunt should be doing with his buddies when trading players.
However I can provide you with some figures and links, so you can draw your own conclusions.
"...the studies that aim to identify the prevalence of CTE in football players have shown unequivocal findings. In the largest ever case series of CTE, involving 202 deceased former football players, Mez et al. (49) demonstrated the existence of CTE in 87%, including 99% ex-NFL Players" https://www.ncbi.:-).nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6018081/
And here's a simple explanation about the antibodies and markers being used for early diagnose of P-Tau buildup in the brain.
Which is not a diagnosis of CTE but an indicator of a "risk factor" which may explain symptoms (behavioral or of different nature) related to the presence - and quantity - of FDDNP/P-Tau. https://www.livescience.com/50163-fo...ease-risk.html
I hope you and all the former players on this board will find these links useful in case they experience even mild symptoms.
Things can be tried today if a risk factor is diagnosed in the early stages, and a lot of money is being invested in this.
We may argue as friends if releasing KHunt was a smart move or not, or about Andy's time management - which is what makes this board great - but I believe information regarding health issues which anyone may face in the future, not necessarily related to Football as this is NOT the only cause of CTE, should not be misrepresented.
Hope your more than "legit request" is fulfilled.
EDIT:
Sorry about the middle fingers emoticon in the link LOL. That's how this board interprets "n l m" in the link, nothing I can do about it.
The link works fine though. [Reply]
