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Hammock Parties 01:46 PM 12-10-2007
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

*NERDGASM*


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Hammock Parties 09:00 PM 05-27-2008
Originally Posted by FAX:
Lighthearted action.
That's why it sucked.
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Deberg_1990 09:08 PM 05-27-2008
HAHAHA....pulled this from another message board, but its pretty damn funny...





"Funny on how no one has commented on what a heel this movie makes Indy out to be. I guess they painted themselves into a corner with the ending of Raiders, but facts are facts.

Indy alienated his mentor because he romanced and then dumped the mentor's teenage daughter. The couple begrudgingly reunites because Indy becomes involved in Abner Ravenwood's life's quest, and Marion has the necessary pieces of the puzzle. But then they fall in love again and realize that it's their love that's more important than even the Ark of the Covenant.

But then, after Raiders, Indy dumps Marion AGAIN, this time just before the wedding. I could be wrong, but I thought she said that Mutt was born 3 months later. 6 months pregnant and neither Marion nor Indy knew it?

Then he basically ignores/avoids her for twenty freakin' years. Never mind the fact that he lives/works in the same damn town the entire time. And she's the love of his life. And his experiences in Last Crusade show him the value of family.

Hell, Indy makes Superman in Superman Returns look like the Father of the Year"
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Hammock Parties 09:15 PM 05-27-2008
Indiana Jones and the Child Support Payments
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Hammock Parties 09:16 PM 05-27-2008
I'm going to post this in here since no one seemed to care about the thread.

Amazing.

Originally Posted by :
After seeing Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, three 12-year old friends, Chris Strompolos, Eric Zala and Jayson Lamb, began filming their own shot-by-shot adaptation in the backyards of their Mississippi homes.

Seven years later their film was in the can.

Here is the end result of their combined efforts. The ONLY segment they cut from the film was the scene with the explosion of the Nazi flying wing.

Other compromises were made - there is no white horse, and a small dog is a stand in for the monkey, but this IS Raiders of the Lost Ark in all it's glory, as only little boys - and one girl - can recreate.

Enjoy. You can read an interview with the creators at this link:

http://www.theraider.net/films/raide...terview_01.php
Here are the first 10 minutes:





The rest are at the youtube page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/IndyFanAdaptation
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InChiefsHeaven 05-28-2008, 06:23 AM
This message has been deleted by InChiefsHeaven. Reason: Apparently I can't read...
InChiefsHeaven 06:52 AM 05-28-2008
That's pretty cool. I can't imagine taking that kind of time to re-do the whole movie...
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Deberg_1990 01:49 PM 05-28-2008
Why Indiana Jones went digital


http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html



In these hallowed halls, Indiana Jones almost seems out of place.

The home of George Lucas' visual effects company is a high-tech temple to everything from the dinosaurs in "Jurassic Park" to the talking robots in "Transformers." But Indy can't take credit for the digital wizardry for which ILM has become famous over the last couple of decades.

Not yet, anyway. That's because he hasn't been around for 19 years, a time in which special effects has mostly migrated from soundstage to server.

The first three Indy films were gritty, sweaty and tactile affairs, largely because everything onscreen physically existed somewhere. Not so with "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" -- though that was almost the case.

When first approaching the latest "Indy," director Steven Spielberg considered dusting off his old-school approach.

"He thought maybe we should just go back to the way we did things before, like matte paintings on glass and things like that," said visual effects supervisor Pablo Helman. "We entertained that idea for a little bit, but we realized we could serve the story better by using our digital tools."

That decision ultimately led to a filmmaking innovation that brings the random reactions of a virtual world to the big screen, giving more control to ILM's computers than ever before.

To the children romping outside at ILM's in-house daycare located just past the lobby, the notion of a digital "environment" being responsible for much of what's onscreen will probably seem quaint someday. But to the adult audiences who've glimpsed the latest Indy escapade, it's a big part of the reason this one looks so different from Jones' last crusade.

Helman, who previously worked with Spielberg on "Munich" and "War of the Worlds," was tasked with creating realistic-yet-fantastic environments and creatures for "Crystal Skull," which finds Jones traipsing from New England to New Mexico, Peru and the Amazon. Working on the "Indy" franchise for the first time was a daunting task for the low-key effects guru.

"It's horrifying to work on a movie that has this many fans, but at the same time, it's an opportunity and a challenge," Helman told The Associated Press at the ILM offices less than a week before its release. "I think we were all very, very respectful of the other three movies but also to the fans. All the effects work that we're doing are completely reality-based."

That is if your reality includes a blooming atomic mushroom cloud, seemingly endless Area 51 warehouse, vicious monkey army, the City of Gold, thousands of man-eating ants and sundry otherworldly things. All those locales and critters were created by Helman and his ILM team for "Crystal Skull," making up the film's 450 effects shots -- not quite as many as the 600-plus in "Transformers," but more than you might expect from a flesh-and-blood character from the 1950s.

About 300 artists and editors worked for eight months in post-production on a high-tech computer network at ILM's offices inside the Presidio of San Francisco, a long way from the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Temple of Doom" days, when "Indiana Jones" special effects mostly consisted of miniature sets and a few blue-screen mash-ups.

"The only reason why they weren't using computer-generated effects back then is because they weren't invented yet, but they were using the most up-to-date technology at the time," said Helman, who finished his work on "Crystal Skull" in mid-April. "So it only follows that we would do the same thing now."

In the film's biggest action sequence, Jones and company battle Russian soldiers and play hot potato with the "Crystal Skull," all while careening through a fertile Amazonian jungle riding atop military vehicles. When not dodging trees and palm fronds, the jeeps plow through enough vegetation to give an arborist heart palpitations.

"The script calls for a virgin jungle, but there's not one we could safely run four vehicles through," said Helman. "We could've approached it in a more modern way on a big stage with a blue screen, but that's not the way we did it. We basically shot it the same way we would've shot it 20 years ago."

Spielberg filmed the pursuit scene on dirt roads in a more sparse jungle in Hawaii. Helman traveled to Argentina, where he was born, and Brazil to capture images that would be used to craft the junglescape, including a looming cliff where part of the chase takes place.

At the ILM offices, Helman and his team meshed the Hawaiian footage with the Brazilian and Argentinian imagery, adding huge swathes of flora using a new digital-effects technique. The result is a fictitious jungle, one with its own look, layout and laws of physics, that only exists inside the computers at ILM.

"The whole film for us has been really big on particle simulation, which is creating an environment inside of a computer and telling the computer the rules of the world," said Helman, who also worked on two of the "Star Wars" films. "You give the computer this gravity, this mass, this amount of wind and see what happens."

That means instead of crafting movement for every vine and leaf that Indy & co. hammer through, visual effects artists were able to drag and drop virtual vegetation programmed to react to the vehicles' presence and actors' movements. It's an application that's long become de rigueur for video games, and come full circle to the big screen.

Even though they were going for something organic, Helman said the filmmakers took some liberties with the laws of physics -- more gravity, more mass, more wind -- to "make it more cinematic."

The result is a highly detailed chase scene that's far different from Indy's landmark escape from a giant rolling ball of a boulder in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." And it's just one of the many effects Helman and his crew created for the film.

However, there's one thing that he insists didn't receive a computer-generated makeover this time around: Indy's signature accessories.

"We did not generate whips or hats," he said, cracking a smile. "Let me tell you that."
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Carlota69 02:08 PM 05-29-2008
I thought the movie was horrendous. A complete bore. I thought the dialogue was terrible, the acting was pedestrain at best, and the storyline was so cheesy, that it made Velveeta look like Gouda. And the special effects? Raiders and Temple looked much more realistic. 20 years ago they could do better SFX then now?

Karen Allen was horrible, and looked just as bad. The whole father son deal was nauseating. There were scenes were you could totally see the blue screen, and even Harrison Ford was off.

Their were a couple of scenes that gave me the Indiana goose-bumps--the ants and the snake scenes--but that's about it.

I loved 'Raiders" and "Temple" was pretty good (Didnt see Crusade), but this pile of turd was super-stinky.
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Sure-Oz 06:47 PM 05-29-2008
I thought the movie was slow paced as could be, but i still enjoyed the Indy character, that hasn't died but the movie surely had no peril or any danger to indy like the previous ones. It didn't have the indy feel and flow at all, maybe the coolest part is watching that fake neighborhood get blown up. I'd say this one is the worst, but that's cause im a big Indy fan....the end was just blah If it was any other film maybe my expectations wouldn't have been so high...

7/10 at best
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Sure-Oz 06:48 PM 05-29-2008
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I didn't think it was that bad. It's made $311 million so far worldwide so someone must like it.:-)
The franchise name alone is getting it that money
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KC_Connection 12:43 AM 05-30-2008
I thought it was pretty good, and definitely lived up to my expectations. The 79% on Rotten Tomatoes was surprising to me when I first saw it, but it was enjoyable throughout and I can see why it got a good rating from the majority of critics.

Raiders of the Lost Ark>>>>>>>>Last Crusade>>Kingdom of the Crustal Skull>>>>>>Temple of Doom

In my opinion.
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InChiefsHeaven 07:02 AM 05-30-2008
The vids of the fan adaptation are no longer on the youtube site...looks like they sold out to commercialism...



...heheheheh...
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Hammock Parties 08:40 AM 05-30-2008
Originally Posted by Carlota69:
I thought the movie was horrendous. A complete bore. I thought the dialogue was terrible, the acting was pedestrain at best, and the storyline was so cheesy, that it made Velveeta look like Gouda. And the special effects? Raiders and Temple looked much more realistic. 20 years ago they could do better SFX then now?

Karen Allen was horrible, and looked just as bad. The whole father son deal was nauseating. There were scenes were you could totally see the blue screen, and even Harrison Ford was off.

Their were a couple of scenes that gave me the Indiana goose-bumps--the ants and the snake scenes--but that's about it.

I loved 'Raiders" and "Temple" was pretty good (Didnt see Crusade), but this pile of turd was super-stinky.
Glad to hear someone else isn't hoodwinked by nostalgia.

You should see Crusade. It has the magic.
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Hammock Parties 08:41 AM 05-30-2008
Originally Posted by InChiefsHell:
The vids of the fan adaptation are no longer on the youtube site...looks like they sold out to commercialism...



...heheheheh...
If you want to see that, there's a torrent out there.
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Sure-Oz 09:00 AM 05-30-2008
I went to ask for my money back because it wasn't as good as i thought it would be....they told me to **** off :-)
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KC_Connection 12:23 AM 05-31-2008
Originally Posted by Claythan:
Glad to hear someone else isn't hoodwinked by nostalgia.

You should see Crusade. It has the magic.
Crusade is full of nostalgia. It tries to repeat the Raiders of the Lost Ark feeling the best they can, just as this most recent one does.
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