Originally Posted by RunKC:
Wylie was terrible last year. He's terrible this year.
He's the MVS of tackles. A few good playoff games surrounded by shit in every other game magnifies how bad he is this year.
Imagine having Smith and Wylie this year. 2nd worst in pressures/sacks and 4th worst. Offense would still be broken even witho Hopkins. Mahomes would be on his back and probably hurt again.
Wylie is not better than Taylor. That's not necessarily the point.
The point is that Taylor was overpaid. Big time. He's being paid like a top-5 tackle. He's not that good though. He's also VERY un-clutch. Backbreaking penalties. On that 4th and 15, Kelce is open and he gives up pressure with Mahomes getting hit on the arm.
His contract makes it harder to accomplish other signings. If he was playing better it would be easier to justify it.
Imagine the Patriots overpaying for this dude during their dynasty. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Yeah because we had $13 million APY to give him. :-)
It’s not some unattainable number. You just defer some money a few years out on other contracts. Mahomes literally has an option every year where we can do it. When it became too late to use mahomes money, we restructured thuney.
These are short term deals with no strings attached. They aren’t nearly the boogeymen some make it to be [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
We did. We can always move money around to afford a player. And his cap hit is only $4mil this year and we could have made it whatever we wanted to to afford him anyways for this year.
Yeah with 4 void years. In reality, it was a 2-year deal for $26 Million.
We have to stop kicking the can down the road. That is the reason we were strapped now. Thuney has a HUGE number. Mahomes is now getting to where it is going to cost almost $ 70 million for just one year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
But they found a way to make Taylor the second highest paid RT in the NFL… long before CJ’s contract got resolved.
Veach prioritized supposedly “upgrading” the RT position… which didn’t happen… and terribly neglected the WR position in the process.
I don't think he went into it quite like that. I do think you're right in that he did choose to upgrade RT first. But I also feel that he thought the CJ thing was going to get resolved sooner, rather than later, so he could free up money to do other things. CJ's camp knew this and waited for the right time to gain leverage, and held the team hostage. Then we were screwed. I think had CJ not shown his ass, Veach would have been able to "upgrade" RT and sign Hopkins. Just my opinion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Yeah with 4 void years. In reality, it was a 2-year deal for $26 Million.
We have to stop kicking the can down the road. That is the reason we were strapped now. Thuney has a HUGE number. Mahomes is now getting to where it is going to cost almost $ 70 million for just one year.
Yep and Thuney number is huge because we used it to kick the can down the road. Folks think Thuney is actually making that next year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
It’s not some unattainable number. You just defer some money a few years out on other contracts. Mahomes literally has an option every year where we can do it. When it became too late to use mahomes money, we restructured thuney.
These are short term deals with no strings attached. They aren’t nearly the boogeymen some make it to be
It is not unattainable, but there is a price. There is going to come a time, I think we are already there, where restructuring these contracts hurts. Mahomes number is $57 million next year and going up for the next 3 years. Thuney is $27 million for the next 2 years. But yeah let's just defer some more money from others' contracts to where we have a year or two of nothing but rookies and the bottom of the league on the field. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Yeah not like the franchises with huge QB cap sign talent for their QB's ever offseason or anything.
We are really getting to that level now. The Chiefs are amongst the first teams trying to navigate these waters for the first time with a QB taking this much of the cap. The Bills, Bengals, Ravens and Chargers are starting that process now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Mahomes has had a concussion, his knee turned sideways, a bad toe injury and an ankle sprain. Evidently folks suddenly forget about David Carr and Andrew Luck having their careers ruined by poor OL. Not to mention Tua having multiple concussions leading people to wonder if he should retire.
There's also been tons of QB injuries this year. Burrow, Lawrence, Jones, Rodgers, Cousins, Richardson, Watson.
The Chiefs tackles had the highest pressure rate given up last year. Mahomes was running for his life. It's like people conveniently forget that our OL got Mahomes hurt last year and our season was close to being done bc of them.
These people should watch the Super Bowl against TB again bc that's what bringing back Wylie would have done.
And this year the WRs AND oline might get Mahomes hurt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Yeah with 4 void years. In reality, it was a 2-year deal for $26 Million.
We have to stop kicking the can down the road. That is the reason we were strapped now. Thuney has a HUGE number. Mahomes is now getting to where it is going to cost almost $ 70 million for just one year.
Mahomes contract is irrelevant. He'll keep restructuring and will sign a brand new contract by 2027. Why do people care about his cap numbers at the end of his career or after he retires?
And his cap hits are 4mil for this year and 16mil next year. I don't know why we're acting like that's a lot for what he can bring you.
Dude is on track for 1000+ yards with a broken Tannehill, Malik Willis, and Will Levis throwing to him. Meanwhile the guy who has a cap hit of $11mil still doesn't have 300 yards with the best QB to ever play the game. [Reply]
