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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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F150 06:44 AM 07-31-2020



1918 advice

People were smarter then
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BigCatDaddy 06:51 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by F150:



1918 advice

People were smarter then
Had me until the bathing thing.
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POND_OF_RED 07:09 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
I mean we're all supposed to be out there risking our 1 in 500 chance of dying and 1 in whatever chance of long term health issues to to keep the economy alive right? What's the difference with taking a 1 in whatever risk of a bad vaccine? Suck it up for the team.
That’s nice and all but for school age children it’s not even close to a 1 in 500 risk. Scientifically we’ve seen very few outliers of school age children being affected by this virus. The vaccines NNH numbers would have to be identically non-existent like the threat of the virus in that age and the research would have to be proven over at least 5-10 years before making it mandatory for children to receive the vaccine. Any parent who would just sign there kids up for a vaccine in the next couple years is obviously not doing their own research on the matter.
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solidgold 07:16 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
Good post :-) But one difference we've seen is the types of people that are being effected by this virus compared to the the spanish flu. The median age of the spanish flu deaths was 28 years old. Now that's super interesting to me. And I'm not trying to be disingenuous towards the older crowd, but that thing was taking down fully healthy bodies which is super crazy. This is almost the reverse spanish flu.
Oh yeah, we got lucky on that this time around. The first time through, in 1918, there was a very obvious "W" in the age groups (x-axis) to deaths (y-axis) graph. The median life expectancy dropped by 15 years in 1918. Part of it may be that we were still mobilized for war and it really got into the military ranks. First reported cases were just outside Leavenworth.

By 1919, that "W" was gone (T cells) and what remained was a older-age skewed "U" shape (but still hit the very young too). Fatal Covid-19 outcomes at least seem to be sparing that very young group.
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C3HIEF3S 07:23 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by F150:



1918 advice

People were smarter then
It was also thought that smoking was a preventative measure.
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chiefzilla1501 07:26 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by MahiMike:
Why are we still here? Covid has been defeated. No one knows of course because the Drs that figured it out have been banned from social media.

It's over guys.
I'm sure if you asked 1000 people who the best QB in the league is, some lunatic will legitimately believe it's ryan Fitzpatrick.
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MahomesMagic 07:36 AM 07-31-2020
[I]Past coronavirus epidemics offer limited clues because they were so contained: Worldwide, only 10,600 or so people were ever diagnosed with SARS or MERS combined, which is less than the number of COVID-19 cases from Staten Island. “For new diseases, we don’t see 100 to 200 patients a week; it usually takes a whole career,” says Megan Coffee, an infectious-disease doctor at NYU Langone Health. And “if you see enough cases of other diseases, you’ll see unusual things.” During the flu pandemic of 2009, for example, doctors also documented heart, kidney, and neurological problems. “Is COVID-19 fundamentally different to other diseases, or is it just that you have a lot of cases at once?” asks Vinay Prasad, a hematologist and an oncologist at Oregon Health and Science University.
[Prasad’s concern is that COVID-19 has developed a clinical mystique—a perception that it is so unusual, it demands radically new approaches. “Human beings are notorious for our desire to see patterns,” he says. “Put that in a situation of fear, uncertainty, and hype, and it’s not surprising that there’s almost a folk medicine emerging.”/I]
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...tainty/610819/
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Kidd Lex 07:46 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
In AZ it has to do with the sheer volume of testing and labs can't keep up. We work in healthcare and routinely have had staff not getting results for 10-14 days even though they "expedite" healthcare workers swabs. We just tested a patient in our rehab and it took 13 ****ing days. And we wonder why certain States are having trouble controlling this virus.
That's unacceptable. Results 13 days later are damn near pointless.
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lewdog 08:02 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by Kidd Lex:
That's unacceptable. Results 13 days later are damn near pointless.
You don’t say....
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dirk digler 08:11 AM 07-31-2020

Non-human primate data link higher neutralizing titers to stronger COVID-19 protection https://t.co/W89ICnuk1G@V2019N pic.twitter.com/eGZQbOgEdP

— steve usdin (@steveusdin1) July 31, 2020

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Donger 08:16 AM 07-31-2020
Titers? I like titers.
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BigBeauford 08:21 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Titers? I like titers.
I'll take famous titers for $500!
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Donger 08:28 AM 07-31-2020
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Friday that 30,000 individuals have started to enroll in the first Phase 3 clinical trial of a coronavirus vaccine in the United States which started Monday.

The investigational vaccine was developed by the biotechnology company Moderna and NIAID.

"As I mentioned, the Phase 3 trial has already started; 30,000 individuals were already starting to enroll," Fauci said during his opening statement for the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis.

Fauci also said that, as of last night, more than 250,000 people have registered interest in trials for a coronavirus vaccine. He asked individuals who have expressed interest to go to coronaviruspreventionnetwork.org "to make sure that we have a diverse representation."

"I just want to use my last couple of seconds to urge anyone who's listening who wants to participate to please go to that website and register so that you can be part of the solution of this terrible scourge," Fauci said.
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Donger 08:37 AM 07-31-2020
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768952
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BigBeauford 08:40 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768952
I take it this means that little ones are super spreaders probably because of their poor hygiene habits.
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