Originally Posted by wazu:
I did. Man, what a letdown! Went from thinking you were some kind of NFL cap management genius to realizing you’re a guy who struggles to craft posts on a vbulletin message board.
I struggle to put thoughts together, let alone posts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:
The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.
Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.
I don’t think you have a very keen context for what NFL WRs get paid.
Go look at the production of Allen Lazard (11mm), Russel Gage (8.5mm), and Adam Thielen (8.3mm), and tell me that MVS’s playing in a completely new system in year 1 with those stats is somehow a dramatic overpay.
He played the role we had hoped he would as a deep threat. In the postseason he played the role of WR1 when he was called upon. Not sure what you expected from a vet making 9mm/yr but his production is in line. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MIAdragon:
You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think he’s going to get paid and paid well.
NO ONE is dropping a $20-$25 mil. per year contract on DHOP this late in the game. Teams, as a whole, already told you what they thought about paying him bigly prior to and up to the draft when NO team was willing to dump a Day 3 pick (4th rounder) to acquire him. Cards were never gonna keep him. They were desperate and looking to get a ‘gift’ for him, knowing they would be dumping him after the draft.
DHop is a good receiver (when healthy). He has an ego. He considers himself to be amongst the best WR’s in the NFL. He was at one time, not so sure anymore. Point being he’s not signing up for some shitty WR2 contract at this point when he knows he can simply go out sign a one year deal, ball out (assuming he stays healthy), and land one last big payday to finish out his career.
Now what offense could he sign with that would give him this type of potential? He’s already named his Top 5 QB’s he’d like to play with. Hurts: Philly not looking for a WR. Herbert: Williams, Allen and now Johnston who they drafted with their #1 pick? Not enough balls to go around in LA. Lamar: I suppose it could happen, but you never know what’s gonna happen with Baltimore’s offense. The more likely scenario is the final 2: Buffalo or KC. Both have elite QB’s, explosive offenses and have a need at WR. I think KC would like to have a veteran WR with some top end potential to add to the mix IF they can make the numbers work. And honestly, he would be a perfect fit in Buffalo as a #2 across from Diggs and them now adding Kincaid.
I honestly think Buffalo is where he will end up, but we’ll see.
He MAY get ‘paid well’, buts it’s definitely not gonna be this offseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kcgreene:
Heres a stat line for you:
6 Rec, 116 Yards, 1 TD
We don't win the AFC Championship game without MVS stepping up the way he did. And that was partially due to him having to shift roles after injuries in the game. He HAD to be the guy and start filling JuJu's and Mecole's roles when they went down. And he was targeted more because he had to take on those roles, and he did well when he was asked to do it.
During the regular season his role was much more purely as deep threat. 492 of those yards were gained when our field position was before midfield. They didn't rely on him much for short yardage, hence less TDs (only 29 yards gained when we were in the redzone).
If you want to argue that he can't break the big bomb for the touchdown, sure I won't disagree. He is a deep threat that unfortunately tends to go down and can't break free, but acting like he isn't doing what Andy's scheming has him designed to do is intellectually dishonest.
I get it... he had a great playoff game. Here is a stat for you.
Dude was 7th on drops with only 1 less than Kelce. Kelce was targeted 152 times. MVS 81.
That is just the ones he "dropped" and not including the ones he gave up on.
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Kelce is 34. According to your logic, we should've sent the greatest TE in history to the glue factory three years ago.
I didn't imply anything about Kelce or his age. There's a lot of football left there. My point is that having a 32 year old WR on the team for a year isn't going to do anything to develop our existing WR corps. We're already having discussions on which of the 12 on the roster today to cut. This isn't a damn the torpedoes, all in this year because it's our only chance to win a SB. This is a dynasty in the making and the only way to keep it rolling is to draft/trade for young players and develop them. There's only so much money and you can bet your bottom dollar Hopkins will be asking for a large chunk of that next year. [Reply]
People seem to forget when the #Chiefs had like $2.73 to their name in the form of cap space in 2019 yet somehow found a way to sign Patrick Mahomes to a ten-year, $450 million dollar contract extension. If Veach and the Chiefs (ie, Mahomes) want D-Hop, they can make it happen. [Reply]
