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Nzoner's Game Room>Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
Dante84 11:03 AM 05-26-2023
Interesting

Cardinals released DeAndre Hopkins. pic.twitter.com/c0f9UaabYA

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) May 26, 2023

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Why Not? 01:48 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
He was literally completely full of shit dude. He ain't gonna suck you off for sticking up for him.
This. If you list the shit he did and don’t land, you’re a fraud.
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Abba-Dabba 01:53 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
He thumb downed one of my posts about him. He's a pussy
He's too busy fighting terrorists in Afghanistan as a contractor with a 70+yr old terminally ill cancer patient RandallFlagg to respond.

At the end of the day he's just a guy desperate for any attention.
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Lzen 08:39 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I don't think the team is going to suck, the issue is with the other top teams your margins are razor thin, that's all.
While true, we have improved the defense. I think that is a big factor. We have talent at WR. Unproven, sure, but I think this group is more talented than is being suggested here. Sure, I have concerns about Toney's health. but I also think MVS has a lot more to show than people give him credit. I guess we will have to see what happens.
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Lzen 08:53 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by loochy:
Highly optimistic? F U dude.

Right?

For the Bills, maybe.
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Mecca 09:08 AM 07-19-2023
Hopkins could have saved a lot of issues if he'd been honest which was..."Yes I'd like to play for a contender but I'm not taking less money to do that"

So he apparently thought one of the good teams would give him what he thought he was worth and well they didn't.
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DJ's left nut 09:28 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I mean no team ever has 10-20% odds to win the SB if you go by Vegas lines so I get the point.
Sure they do.

The Chiefs at +600 are considered about 15% likely to win the SB.

Just doing some quick math and Vegas has the percentages at roughly:

Chiefs: 15%
Eagles: 12%
Bills: 10%
49ers: 10%
Bengals: 9%
Cowboys: 5%
jets: 4%
Ravens, Lions, Jags, Dolphins, Chargers: 3%
Seahawks, Browns, Saints, Vikings, Broncos, Giants, Raiders: 2%
Everyone else: 1% or less

I mean there's fiddling in the margins based on the individual sportsbook, but Vegas has 4 teams at/above 10% chances of winning the SB this year.

10-20% is pretty much a spot on representation of where the Chiefs are presently falling in betting lines.
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Balto 09:40 AM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Hopkins could have saved a lot of issues if he'd been honest which was..."Yes I'd like to play for a contender but I'm not taking less money to do that"

So he apparently thought one of the good teams would give him what he thought he was worth and well they didn't.
OR Veach never gave Hopkins an offer at all.
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kcgreene 01:43 PM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by Balto:
OR Veach never gave Hopkins an offer at all.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...hopkins-offers

Breer also provided insight into the Chiefs’ pursuit of Hopkins. The defending Super Bowl champions were long mentioned as a potential destination, in spite of their cap constraints. Before the draft, Breer notes, Kansas City offered a base salary of $4MM with incentives pushing the contract’s maximum value to $10MM. Hopkins was thought to be waiting for the Chiefs to free up money via a Chris Jones extension, but his Tennessee agreement has come before any developments on that front. Even with manufactured cap space for this season, Kansas City likely would not have realistically been able to outbid Tennessee.

Not necessarily gospel, but the most information I've seen on the matter.
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ptlyon 01:45 PM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by kcgreene:
Not necessarily gospel, but the most information I've seen on the matter.
Well Jesus Christ, it was on the internet was it not?
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kcgreene 01:49 PM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by ptlyon:
Well Jesus Christ, it was on the internet was it not?
Yea, but it is from Albert Breer, that's worth something. The man is an NFL Insider for SI. This isn't necessarily DJBill here with his neighbor.
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Balto 01:58 PM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by kcgreene:
https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...hopkins-offers

Breer also provided insight into the Chiefs’ pursuit of Hopkins. The defending Super Bowl champions were long mentioned as a potential destination, in spite of their cap constraints. Before the draft, Breer notes, Kansas City offered a base salary of $4MM with incentives pushing the contract’s maximum value to $10MM. Hopkins was thought to be waiting for the Chiefs to free up money via a Chris Jones extension, but his Tennessee agreement has come before any developments on that front. Even with manufactured cap space for this season, Kansas City likely would not have realistically been able to outbid Tennessee.

Not necessarily gospel, but the most information I've seen on the matter.
This states that Veach's offer was BEFORE the draft which included a trade and the Cards picking up a lot of Hopkins cash which they declined.

Thus Veach probably didn't offer anything to Hopkins as a free agent and the "Chiefs stayed in contact with Hopkins" could have very easily been "We are interested but will need to get Jones contract done before we give you an offer".
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kcgreene 02:04 PM 07-19-2023
Originally Posted by Balto:
This states that Veach's offer was BEFORE the draft which included a trade and the Cards picking up a lot of Hopkins cash which they declined.

Thus Veach probably didn't offer anything to Hopkins as a free agent and the "Chiefs stayed in contact with Hopkins" could have very easily been "We are interested but will need to get Jones contract done before we give you an offer".
Probably. At least it gives us an idea of what the original idea was.
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Kiimo 02:15 PM 07-19-2023
Right the odds to win the SB are much higher if you're going against a particular team but if you're going against the field 15% is pretty great odds.
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FloridaMan88 09:32 PM 09-07-2023
This thread has some prophetic takes after tonight.
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Gary Cooper 09:37 PM 09-07-2023
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
This thread has some prophetic takes after tonight.
Can we trade Jones and a case of Bud Light for him?
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