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Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Didn't Sam tell Jon in S4 that Bran was alive but that he couldn't prevent him from going North of the wall? If so Jon may think he's a goner.
You're right. Even if he didn't think he was a goner, the news of Bran possibly surviving wouldn't actually be news, so he has no reason to bring it up now. [Reply]
Jon Snow told Sansa she was the head of the house when he offered her the Lords chambers. But I mean, who do you rally behind? Sansa? Or the former Lord Commander who led the attack to take back Winterfell and is widely regarded as a Stark by all those northerners who "know" his father is Ned Stark, and he was raised with the Stark children. Sometimes you can just tell when somebody has "it", and that's why he became Lord Commander and then King of the North. [Reply]
Wow. I hadn't gone over to asoiaf.westeros.org for years, but someone sent me a link to a thread so I've been catching up a bit with the serious book folks. I had no idea there was such a hatred of the show. When it started, I figured some readers might dismiss it fairly soon if it didn't match their vision, but seriously, they are downright ridiculous. Pure seething hatred of the show runners as if they were actually trying to ruin GRRM and his legacy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
He was already born before Ned walked in, right? So he wasn't born under that bleeding star.
Am I wrong or wasn't Dawn wielded by Ser Arthur Dayne in combat at the battle outside? If the baby was born under his protection and the great sword was made from a meteorite then Jon Snow was born under a bleeding star. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
Am I wrong or wasn't Dawn wielded by Ser Arthur Dayne in combat at the battle outside? If the baby was born under his protection and the great sword was made from a meteorite then Jon Snow was born under a bleeding star.
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Not sure about the smoke and salt part though. [Reply]
Also, say Dany shows up with King's Landing as her goal. It becomes known that Dany is Snow's aunt. It would take a very liberal interpretation of "prince", but Dany as Queen with Snow as Warden of the North would make sense. [Reply]
One thought: Jon Snow can be considered to have been born twice. His resurrection can be seen as the birth of Jon Targaryen, so important events happening around the time of his rez may count as him being born "in the middle of" of them. Or amidst. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
Am I wrong or wasn't Dawn wielded by Ser Arthur Dayne in combat at the battle outside? If the baby was born under his protection and the great sword was made from a meteorite then Jon Snow was born under a bleeding star.
Yeah, I guess so. The whole Azor Ahai thing confuses me. Why do the people in Asshai care so much about a hero that will defeat monsters that don't exist in Asshai? [Reply]
