So there's an article on NFL network saying that Orlando Brown is expected to sign for 6 years $145 mil.
That comes to $24.16 mil/yr and makes him the highest paid offensive lineman in football. It also would give him the 19th highest salary per year in the NFL
How would you feel if that is the contract he ended up signing?
I'm fine with it. He is a top 5 LT and he's only 26 next season. A young great LT is a guy you can't let leave. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The constant theme is Veach looking like a fool.
Reid too...they go hand in hand. We can throw Spags in there too with the struggles to build the defensive line roster. All 3 of them have worked together on this stuff and can't seem to figure out the defense, while Andy can't seem to figure out the OL.
It's hilarious that we are desperate for the glory days of Schwartz & Fisher, yet those guys got pushed around in the Super Bowl by the Niners. Both the OL & DL groups have been soft for a long time under Andy's guidance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Razaele:
Reasonable in a vacuum, but this thought is usually followed by the idea we’ll just conjure a replacement up. Who’s the overlooked gem that will be the 4th-5th-6th tackle taken that we will be starting week 1 next year, and will immediately be an upgrade over Brown? Where are we if he isn’t there? How much quality are we going to lose on the 53 if we have to trade up or trade for someone else?
Entirely possible that the best 53 results from paying Brown above market and spending the draft capital on the D-line. Money is fungible but draft picks are much harder to come by, and I’d rather see Brown get a deal I don’t like than us follow the Rams’ path.
Yosh Nijman manned LT for Green Bay for almost a whole season before giving way to their second OT Jenkins. Are they going to pay 3 left tackles? Bahktiari is already insanely expensive. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Yosh Nijman manned LT for Green Bay for almost a whole season before giving way to their second OT Jenkins. Are they going to pay 3 left tackles? Bahktiari is already insanely expensive.
Jenkins has been playing guard again.
Yes, I think they do at least RFA tender him for a 1st this year and pay him while letting Jenkins walk. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Reid too...they go hand in hand. We can throw Spags in there too with the struggles to build the defensive line roster. All 3 of them have worked together on this stuff and can't seem to figure out the defense, while Andy can't seem to figure out the OL.
It's hilarious that we are desperate for the glory days of Schwartz & Fisher, yet those guys got pushed around in the Super Bowl by the Niners. Both the OL & DL groups have been soft for a long time under Andy's guidance.
There's so much fail in this post it's difficult to know where to start.
But I'll start with Schwartz and Fisher. The Niners front four was without question the best in football, and while Fisher struggled somewhat, Schwartz certainly didn't, and anyway that was a period of time where Mahomes was prone to just dropping back...and back...and back and really put his OT's in a bind. Compare to the next year's SB where we had neither Fisher nor Schwartz due to injuries. Not even close to the same thing, or the same results.
Veach TRIED to get Trent Williams, and then pivoted to the next highest rated choice in OBJ, it just hasn't worked out as hoped. He also drafted Niang, who had first round potential but an injury issue, and that too, has not worked out. But it's not like there was no effort made.
Clark was a double digit sack guy entering his prime; and that as well has not worked out largely due to some mysterious stomach ailment, but it's not like an effort wasn't made.
It's easy to complain AFTER the fact, but all of these were reasonable moves with sound logic at the time. Sometimes shit happens. The mark of quality GM's and coaches, in my opinion, is how they pivot.
Everybody is pissed because we lost yesterday, but if you asked any one of us in May if we'd take being 9-3 right now, not a single CP poster would turn that down. We'd have all been gleeful.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
There's so much fail in this post it's difficult to know where to start.
But I'll start with Schwartz and Fisher. The Niners front four was without question the best in football, and while Fisher struggled somewhat, Schwartz certainly didn't, and anyway that was a period of time where Mahomes was prone to just dropping back...and back...and back and really put his OT's in a bind. Compare to the next year's SB where we had neither Fisher nor Schwartz due to injuries. Not even close to the same thing, or the same results.
Veach TRIED to get Trent Williams, and then pivoted to the next highest rated choice in OBJ, it just hasn't worked out as hoped. He also drafted Niang, who had first round potential but an injury issue, and that too, has not worked out. But it's not like there was no effort made.
Clark was a double digit sack guy entering his prime; and that as well has not worked out largely due to some mysterious stomach ailment, but it's not like an effort wasn't made.
It's easy to complain AFTER the fact, but all of these were reasonable moves with sound logic at the time. Sometimes shit happens. The mark of quality GM's and coaches, in my opinion, is how they pivot.
Everybody is pissed because we lost yesterday, but if you asked any one of us in May if we'd take being 9-3 right now, not a single CP poster would turn that down. We'd have all been gleeful.
Let's try to keep perspective.
I didn’t say they were not trying. I said they’ve been struggling with roster management for both OL & DL. Blame injuries and whatever else, but their plans have not worked out anywhere near like they hoped. Time will tell if they can make big improvement with LT, RT, and DL. [Reply]
