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Donger 08:40 AM 04-23-2007
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

Spoiler!

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scho63 11:49 AM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by RaiderH8r:
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.
:-):-):-):-):-)
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Donger 11:54 AM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
:-)
Why are people laughing at that?
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Donger 11:55 AM 12-09-2015
I did the math once on the gasoline tax revenue generated annually and the cost of the creation of the entire interstate system. It was fun.
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DaneMcCloud 11:56 AM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by RaiderH8r:
The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mochafuckachino every goddamn morning.
$3 dollars for gasoline? Where do you live?

I've been paying in excess of $4 dollars (often, closer to the five) for at least the past 5 years. Only recently has it dipped below $3 dollars and it's awesome.
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KC native 12:19 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by Donger:
I did the math once on the gasoline tax revenue generated annually and the cost of the creation of the entire interstate system. It was fun.
Your calculation leaves out inflation.
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Donger 12:20 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by KC native:
Your calculation leaves out inflation.
No, it didn't.
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KC native 12:21 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by Donger:
No, it didn't.
Yes, it did.
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FD 12:22 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by RaiderH8r:
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.
Yep, the Highway Trust Fund goes entirely to its specific purpose, infrastructure maintenance, and can't be spent on anything else. For many years now, the gas tax revenue that goes into the fund have been well short of the actual needed highway spending and that spending has had to come from other tax sources.

It's long past time to raise the gas tax and improve our roads.
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Donger 12:24 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by KC native:
Yes, it did.
We consume 134.5 billion gallons of gasoline each year. The federal tax on a gallon of gasoline is $0.184/gallon. That's $24.7 billion in taxes each year, and I didn't include taxes on diesel.

The ENTIRE interstate system was built with $425 billion (2006 dollars).
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Hydrae 12:25 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by RaiderH8r:
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.
Rather than trying to index to inflation I think they should set it at a percent of pump prices. Either way, having it set at a hard value (I think it is like 18 cents per gallon) is not effective.
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RaiderH8r 12:50 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
$3 dollars for gasoline? Where do you live?

I've been paying in excess of $4 dollars (often, closer to the five) for at least the past 5 years. Only recently has it dipped below $3 dollars and it's awesome.
$3/gal seems to generally the tipping point for bitching for most folks.
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scho63 01:35 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by Donger:
We consume 134.5 billion gallons of gasoline each year. The federal tax on a gallon of gasoline is $0.184/gallon. That's $24.7 billion in taxes each year, and I didn't include taxes on diesel.

The ENTIRE interstate system was built with $425 billion (2006 dollars).
If my 5 year declining tax hike was implemented, it would raise $100 billion ADDITIONAL dollars for roads and bridges. That's a nice chunk of change for just infrastructure.
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DaneMcCloud 01:41 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by RaiderH8r:
$3/gal seems to generally the tipping point for bitching for most folks.
Maybe where you live. Where I live it's seen as awesome.

Try paying $4.59 a gallon for about five years.
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scho63 01:44 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Maybe where you live. Where I live it's seen as awesome.

Try paying $4.59 a gallon for about five years.
Sounds like you have a lot in common with this woman......:-)

Woman 'raped 43,200' times speaks out about Mexico's human trafficking rings

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6730436.html
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Donger 01:48 PM 12-09-2015
Originally Posted by scho63:
If my 5 year declining tax hike was implemented, it would raise $100 billion ADDITIONAL dollars for roads and bridges. That's a nice chunk of change for just infrastructure.
If ~8% of what it took to build the ENTIRE interstate system is taken in tax revenue EVERY YEAR (and it is), I would argue that we don't have a tax revenue problem as it pertains to maintaining our roads and bridges.
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