About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.
I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that...
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
I'll go on the record with this.
I wanted the NK to win. I wanted Dany to take out a handful of survivors on Drogon and Jon on Rheagal. I wanted them to be separated, with all hope feeling lost, and I wanted them to converge on King's Landing when the NK began to wreck the city, Cersei, and shit-eating ShowEuron.
But, the more I look into GRRM's quotes - I just don't that that's where he's going with this thing. The show NK isn't really even in the books. The show just made him as a personification of the WW threat. The problem, I think, is that while George chooses to eschew writing POV accounts of Hardhome and instead gives subtle hints of the horror there, the show chose to actually go there. At the time, this was praised as a wonderful deviation. However, it was done so ****ing well that the NK antagonist altered the show's center. The politics that made the show (and there are good moments of those politics in S6) immediately took a backseat to the WW - so much so that that WW threat became prioritized above all else to the viewer (for better or for worse). I’d also argue that this is where the show exploded from a super successful HBO show to the global phenomenon that it is now. Season 5 actually had been declining ratings wise from Season 4 - then Hardhome happened. The NK became embedded in the show’s lore, when he was never a true character in the books. On a personal note, this is how I’ve hooked two of my friends who gave up on the show after being “bored” with Season 1 - but they LOVED Hardhome with zero context to Jon’s development and multiple characters who were featured in it.
I've accepted last night's WW fate the more I read into GRRM. He just loves the idea of politics and ruling and how the elite class will always be a factor in our world, always, even in the face of extinction.
However, my opinion of this episode will likely forever hinge on the next three. If there is a Hodor level twist coming (possibly something to do with the foreshadowed burning of King's Landing we've seen in Bran and Dany's plots) and stick the landing (meaning a satisfying enough ending that doesn't betray the arcs of the main characters), I'll be happy with the episode.
But if I just don't care after this, if we just get a 4 hour Scouring of the Shire like epilogue to the series that honors GRRM's planned ending after last night, then D&D will have failed and needed to realize that the Game of Thrones show ultimately went a different direction than the ASOIAF. That's what the HIMYM showrunners couldn't accept. The characters in the show went a radically different direction in 9 seasons of development than when they filmed the original ending in S2 (when they thought it was a 3 season series). However, all of the GOT showrunners seem confident with the ending, and A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was so good for the characters that it's keeping me hopeful that they're going to stay true to them in the ending - especially since these characters are what make up the fabric of the series.
We'll see. Valar Morghulis and what not.
white walkers, winter, long night, night king... all of that had been built up for years. but when it came down to it; Arya, the level 9 assassin, took out the biggest threat that multiple dragons couldn't touch. she did it with a knife trick. yippee
i can just imagine the next Nan
Oh me little lord, what do you know about fear? fear is for the winter when the snows cannot be written in with your pee. Fear is for the long night, you'll be snuggled up in your safe space for an hour and a hoff. Children will be born and die and take undead giants out along with them. your teenage sister will save Westeros and never let you live it down. That's something to fear
- The Reach (Sam is now the lord of High Garden
- Dorn (no connection)
- Vale (Stark connection)
- Riverlands (Lord Tully)
- Westerlands ( Jamie is Lord of casterly rock)
- Meereen ( Dario)
So they might be able to form at least a army of a couple thousand.....
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Placed that could still raise a sizable Army....
- The Reach (Sam is now the lord of High Garden
- Dorn (no connection)
- Vale (Stark connection)
- Riverlands (Lord Tully)
- Westerlands ( Jamie is Lord of casterly rock)
- Meereen ( Dario)
So they might be able to form at least a army of a couple thousand.....
But that’s it Westeros is spent....
She still has the 2nd Sons, they could sail for Westeros [Reply]
The midair dragon battle. Brightened up and slowed way down....
I never noticed that Viserion gets half his face eaten off, and the blue flame was puffing out of the hole in the side of his face instead of his mouth during the scene(:59).
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Placed that could still raise a sizable Army....
- The Reach (Sam is now the lord of High Garden
- Dorn (no connection)
- Vale (Stark connection)
- Riverlands (Lord Tully)
- Westerlands ( Jamie is Lord of casterly rock)
- Meereen ( Dario)
So they might be able to form at least a army of a couple thousand.....
But that’s it Westeros is spent....
Its not going to be how big of an army Danerys can raise. Thats not how they defeat Cersi.
After all this time, they are not going to kill the 1 million innocent civilians caught in the cross fire. There will be some kind of battle but not a full scale assault on the walls of Kings Landing.
Either the Golden Company and the Iron bank turn on Cersi and stand down while Westeros fights among themselves or join the Dany/Jon troops or...........
Arya has already found a way to get out of the castle through the sewers in season 1. Just go back in that way. Tyrion knows the sewer tunnels to get in too. Bronn turns on Cersi. We get Cleganebowl. The hound wins but mortally wounded. Maybe Jamie dies in the attempt. Arya takes his face and kills Cersi. Or some version of that... [Reply]
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Is it properly calibrated? You SHOULD be able to see those dark scenes on a quality 4K.
You could create a preset just for that episode...
We watched on my Vizio E series 4K 70". It's hardly a state of the art TV, and I just bought it because it was huge and relatively inexpensive.
Had zero issues seeing what was going on in the episode. Of course I have the settings all set to optimum. ( I suppose you could say calibrated). [Reply]
somebody already stated this in the thread but i didnt see the knights of the vale at all in that episode. I could have easily missed them but yeah to my knowledge they weren't there [Reply]
Did Ghost make it out alive? Next episode I'm kind of hoping to see Bran warg into Ghost and come flying into King's Landing riding a dragon, catching a biscuit thrown by Hot Pie in his mouth, while taking out Cersei. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Did Ghost make it out alive? Next episode I'm kind of hoping to see Bran warg into Ghost and come flying into King's Landing riding a dragon, catching a biscuit thrown by Hot Pie in his mouth, while taking out Cersei.
I saw a screenshot on Facebook that showed him in one of the scenes from next week's preview. [Reply]
I keep going back to how unimpressive the finale for the NK was.
The scene was awesome the sudden end was... just not what I expected.
I think in episode 2 when Bran explains what the NK wants and Sam expounds on it we or many of us took it a lot lighter than the writers expected. That scene I think was supposed to be one of those Jon comes back to life, Baelish gets executed type moments and it just didnt work. [Reply]
