dude I gave you two neg reps TOTAL


but yes, I feel amazing, thank you.



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mmm! chris jones PENIS! me rikey!
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Chiefs were up 21-3 on the bengals in the first half. Chiefs weren’t running on fumes. Pat just played his worse half of postseason football of his career.

Josh was on a Mahomes like tear. Much better than the following year when the bills lost to the bengals. He shredded both defenses he faced in the playoffs that year. Bills would have beaten the bengals that year, imo.
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He ran out of gas by halftime of that Bengals game. And I think you underrate the Cincy defense. Allen wasn't gonna torch them for 4 quarters. That same Cincy defense held the Rams to only 23 points when they were torching everyone else they played, such as scoring 30 points on the road against a pretty good defense for the defending champs in Tampa Bay.
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I wish someone would upload Turning Point to Fishkernfl or the Bay.
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So, which is it? Did Mahomes run out of gas after putting up 21 points or was the Bengals defense just that great? I think you underestimate just how well Josh was playing. His performances against the Pats and Chiefs that year were better than any two postseason games Mahomes has had.
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Clowney kicking Pacheco should be a suspension
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Allen torched a Chiefs defense that was falling down on a lot of the plays. Wide open receivers. I think Mahomes outplayed him in that 13 seconds game. Mahomes was going against the #1 ranked defense in the league. ESPN QBR grades were 97/100 for Mahomes and 92/100 for Allen in that game. So I'm gonna strongly disagree with your statement that Allen outplayed him in that game. Apparently ESPN agrees with me on it.

The Bengals in 2021 had a much better defense than the 2021 Chiefs defense. So hell no, I don't think Allen would have torched the Bengals for 4 quarters. Stafford & Mahomes weren't able to do it. Josh Allen himself has not been able to do it when he went against that Cincy defense in 2022 and 2023.
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Josh Allen is better than Stafford. Bengals defense was 17th in 2021 and 6th in 2022. The bills had the #1 defense in 2021 though. Bengals barely beat the damn raiders and titans. Youre building up the Bengals because they beat the Chiefs.
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They barely beat the Raiders & Titans because their offense with Burrow is overrated as hell. The Cincy defense carried them to those wins. And they held a very hot Stafford to 23 points after he torched the defending champs Tampa in their house.

The following year in the Playoffs the Bengals shutdown Josh Allen to only 10 points in his stadium. A much worse version of the Bengals defense this year held Josh Allen to 17 points. Their 2021 defense would have done just fine against him, based on what they did against a pretty hot Stafford & Mahomes and based on what they've done against Allen in 2022 and 2023.
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before this guy could get home


the kid was kickin it in Vegas already

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Amazing
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What happens the following year is WHOLLY irrelevant. There is no transitive property in football. Chiefs beat the bengals the second time after losing the first. Ravens lost to the titans after losing to them first. Josh has a winning record against the Chiefs in the regular season. Burrow is undefeated. Burrow has a losing record to Baker. So, what happened the following year doesn’t tell you much about what would have happened the prior year.

And if the Bengals offense was overrated how do you support they would have faired against the #1 defense in the league??? The Bills were better on both sides of the ball and it wasn’t close. Bills would have been as big of favorites as the chiefs were. And Josh was “hotter” than Stafford.

There is zero reason to believe the bengals would have beaten the bills except that the bengals beat the Chiefs. And that literally required an epic collapse of the best qb in the game.
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