Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Allen is the only QB with a ceiling high enough to compete with Mahomes when Mahomes is playing great. He just can’t reach it nearly as often as Mahomes and is often still susceptible to not playing within the context of the game situation and what it calls for.
People continue to overrate Burrow because he got carried by his defense in one postseason run. He’s not clutch and shrinks almost as bad as Lamar in the playoffs.
Keep talking that bullshit while forgetting that Burrow led the 6 minute drive in Cincy in '21 that beat you, led the OT drive in the AFCCG that beat you and led the drive and made the 3rd down throw in a tight window in '22 in Cincy that beat you.
You should also seriously reconsider putting shit like the bolded out for everyone to read. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
Keep talking that bullshit while forgetting that Burrow led the 6 minute drive in Cincy in '21 that beat you, led the OT drive in the AFCCG that beat you and led the drive and made the 3rd down throw in a tight window in '22 in Cincy that beat you.
You should also seriously reconsider putting shit like the bolded out for everyone to read.
Yeah, talking shit on Burrow is stupid. When he's healthy, he's one of the top QB's in this league. He's also proven he can do something Allen can't - get to a SB by knocking off the Chiefs. [Reply]
It'll be interesting to see how these guys evolve... not even Mahomes avoided growing pains. The Bills tried to limit Allen hero ball, but in the end they're still not quite there. Just like Mahomes, Burrow will most likely one day have to adjust to not having two 1000 yard receivers, and may even need to play hero ball one year when his defense isn't as good.
Just think, in the evolution of Mahomes, if he wins a SB this year we'll have witnessed....
...winning a SB as a gunslinger and being heavily relied upon
...winning a SB minus a 2nd HoF receiver and relying more on defense
...potentially winning a SB relying more so on defense and even times of game management offense [Reply]
1. What would he look like without such great receivers? Could still be great, but we don’t know.
2. Sacks. Whether it’s him or the OL, he takes way too many sacks. That’s not sustainable. It’ll either kill key drives (see last year’s AFCCG) or shorten his career (maybe both).
He’s been sacked 148 times in 52 regular season games. Mahomes has been sacked 148 times in 96 regular season games.
Burrow has also been sacked 29 times in 7 postseason games. Mahomes has been sacked 32 times in 17 postseason games. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake:
No, he's not allowed to do it. It's been a point of emphasis in the league this year. He's blatantly flaunting the rules.
Its different for a kicker because he will want to see how the wind moves in each direction. He can be there and I think in the other end zone you can see Townsend. It also is reasonable to kick at the goal line because kickers will start with no drop kicks. Mahomes and Kelce weren't in pads so this is more pre warmup. Generally tucker shouldve been done with that or at the very least... Moved it when asked to or don't put your shit in a blatantly intrusive spot when all you're doing is stretching.
But just because you have the right to be there doesn't mean you can abuse the privilege with Justin did. Not hard to figure out his intent which was to provoke [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
There’s fair and unfair criticism of any QB.
The fair criticism of Burrow is:
1. What would he look like without such great receivers? Could still be great, but we don’t know.
2. Sacks. Whether it’s him or the OL, he takes way too many sacks. That’s not sustainable. It’ll either kill key drives (see last year’s AFCCG) or shorten his career (maybe both).
He’s been sacked 148 times in 52 regular season games. Mahomes has been sacked 148 times in 96 regular season games.
Burrow has also been sacked 29 times in 7 postseason games. Mahomes has been sacked 32 times in 17 postseason games.
Ultimately McAfee is as good as anyone to comment. And he sees no issue with tucker being there, but clearly he was trying to provoke where most kickers will have the courtesy to not get in the way. And once tucker started being a dick about not moving, Kelce and mahomes were well within their rights to move his shit out of the way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
It'll be interesting to see how these guys evolve... not even Mahomes avoided growing pains. The Bills tried to limit Allen hero ball, but in the end they're still not quite there. Just like Mahomes, Burrow will most likely one day have to adjust to not having two 1000 yard receivers, and may even need to play hero ball one year when his defense isn't as good.
Just think, in the evolution of Mahomes, if he wins a SB this year we'll have witnessed....
...winning a SB as a gunslinger and being heavily relied upon
...winning a SB minus a 2nd HoF receiver and relying more on defense
...potentially winning a SB relying more so on defense and even times of game management offense
Yep. It's proven in the end. The best of the best adjust to what they have. [Reply]
So where was the "savant" half time adjustments we heard so much about? Because Spags put him in hell the entire game and he never really figured it out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Its different for a kicker because he will want to see how the wind moves in each direction. He can be there and I think in the other end zone you can see Townsend. It also is reasonable to kick at the goal line because kickers will start with no drop kicks. Mahomes and Kelce weren't in pads so this is more pre warmup. Generally tucker shouldve been done with that or at the very least... Moved it when asked to or don't put your shit in a blatantly intrusive spot when all you're doing is stretching.
But just because you have the right to be there doesn't mean you can abuse the privilege with Justin did. Not hard to figure out his intent which was to provoke
After they kicked his holder, he the moved his 2 balls and his helmet right where Patrick was throwing. He could have easily put thems elsewhere, but he was trying to be a prick. He sees Butker coming up strong in the rearview mirror. [Reply]
The difference between burrow and josh is 13 seconds that Josh had nothing to do with. If Bills defense stops chiefs Josh has a SB appearance too. Burrow required the worst half of postseason football from Mahomes to beat him. Both have regular season winning records against the Chiefs.
I think Allen is the second best qb in the league but his defense always fails him. [Reply]