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— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.
— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.
Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.
If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The Packers had massive injuries in their secondary and couldn't stop anyone. They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. They also had no RB all year...they literally had to move a WR to play RB.
Who here is saying things need to be perfect? Did you not read the post?
Despite an 8-8 team with huge holes, Rodgers put that team on his back and carried them to an NFCCG.
The Packers in no way deserves to go that far, but their QB took control.
The goal is to get one of those QB's, which Alex will never be that's QB, ever.
I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.
But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?
The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh? Posted via Mobile Device
Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"
That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.
He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"
That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.
He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right?
In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.
Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Wilson in his Superbowl run had a game where he completed 9/18 passes for 103 yards and they still won. Let's stop acting like he's the one carrying the Seahawks to these playoff wins. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.
Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson. Posted via Mobile Device
Alex is allowed to kick around 100 yard games when his defense does what the Seahawks did to Manning. If they're not? Let's say they're playing the adequate Pittsburgh Steelers and don't allow a single friggin TD on the entire day.
Alex has to overcome that. Russell Wilson has been able to find ways in his young career to meet those demands even with a 4 INT game.
Alex has not.
You can't possibly be comparing the two QBs. Do we need you to show you all those Pittsburgh gifs again? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Alex is allowed to kick around 100 yard games when his defense does what the Seahawks did to Manning. If they're not? Let's say they're playing the adequate Pittsburgh Steelers and don't allow a single friggin TD on the entire day.
Alex has to overcome that. Russell Wilson has been able to find ways in his young career to meet those demands even with a 4 INT game.
Alex has not.
You can't possibly be comparing the two QBs. Do we need you to show you all those Pittsburgh gifs again?
Russell wins the Pittsburgh game with the defense and running game he's had in his playoff career.
His 4 INT game came against the great Aaron Rodgers and THEY STILL WON.
The year they won the Superbowl he averaged 174 yards, 1 TD and 0 interceptions. You don't think Alex Smith wins the Superbowl too in that situation?
Him and Alex are very similar in the playoffs other than Alex averages more yards and touchdowns and less interceptions per game... Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?
The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh? Posted via Mobile Device
Do you watch the games on Sunday, or do you just read about them during the week?
Originally Posted by -King-:
I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.
But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist. Posted via Mobile Device
You can't blame Rodgers for that. He had that team basically in the SB in 2014 and his team pissed the game away. Double digit lead at the end and they piss it away.
Originally Posted by -King-:
Russell wins the Pittsburgh game with the defense and running game he's had in his playoff career.
His 4 INT game came against the great Aaron Rodgers and THEY STILL WON.
The year they won the Superbowl he averaged 174 yards, 1 TD and 0 interceptions. You don't think Alex Smith wins the Superbowl too in that situation?
Him and Alex are very similar in the playoffs other than Alex averages more yards and touchdowns and less interceptions per game... Posted via Mobile Device
The difference is that Wilson makes plays in big moments.
Alex Smith doesn't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by milkman:
The difference is that Wilson makes plays in big moments.
Alex Smith doesn't.
What plays?
Are we really giving him credit for throwing a touchdown in overtime after throwing 4 interceptions in regulation? Yayyy, you cleaned up the milk you spilled. Great job! Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Amazing how Alex apologists play this stupid game. Wilson and Rodgers are 100X the QB Alex ever has, is or ever could dream of being.
Period
How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.
I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.
I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance. Posted via Mobile Device
Excuses are only legit and acceptable for OTHER team's quarterbacks.
Originally Posted by -King-:
How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.
I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance. Posted via Mobile Device
You're literally saying Russell Wilson'a defense and running game won playoff games for him while ignoring Alex Smith's defense getting a turnover and keeping one of the hottest offenses out of the end zone and holding them to 18 points while his RB had 4.4 YPC and scores a TD.
Alex also has Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce who are all pro players, not to mention Jeremy Maclin.
So please tell us why Alex couldn't succeed with a great team like Wilson had? [Reply]
