2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official
2023 Opening Day Lineup
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Donovan 2B
Nootbar RF
Goldschmidt 1B
Arenado 3B
Wilson Contreras C
Tyler O'Neill LF
Gorman DH
Jordan Walker RF
Tommy Edman SS
2022 Opening Day roster.
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The Cardinals anticipated 26-player Opening Day roster projects as follows, but will not become official until Thursday, March 30:
PITCHERS (13): Jack Flaherty-RHP, Giovanny Gallegos-RHP, Ryan Helsley-RHP, Jordan Hicks-RHP, Steven Matz-LHP, Miles Mikolas-RHP, Jordan Montgomery-LHP, Packy Naughton-LHP, Andre Pallante-RHP, Chris Stratton-RHP, Zack Thompson-LHP, Drew VerHagen-RHP, and Jake Woodford-RHP;
CATCHERS (2): Willson Contreras and Andrew Knizner;
INFIELDERS (6): Nolan Arenado, Brendan Donovan, Tommy Edman, Paul Goldschmidt, Nolan Gorman and Taylor Motter;
OUTFIELDERS (5): Alec Burleson, Dylan Carlson, Lars Nootbaar, Tyler O’Neill and Jordan Walker;
INJURED LIST (3): Paul DeJong-INF, Wilking Rodríguez-RHP, Adam Wainwright-RHP.
For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
Originally Posted by Marco Polo:
At this point, you just have to hope that the team will be .500 by the end of the season. There's no doubt that the "Cardinal Way" is obsolete with no life in the team. Perhaps this season needed to happen for changes to be made. Mo is still an idiot for not trading for Soto with the extra OF that we have or trading for SP with the same excess OF that we have. I plan on going to another 7-8 games this year so hopefully they win at least one. So far I'm 0-2 in games this year.
.500?
I hope they lose 100 games. It's the only way things are going to change. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, I think that's gonna be what it takes.
Even 90 saves Mozeliak's job - afterall, he just got extended.
100 games HAS to get him canned because the bottom line will feel it. Biggly.
And that's all Dewitt cares about.
Sadly, I think it will take losing 100 games two years in a row for significant changes to be made in the front office...and even then only because Dimwit might start to worry about the value being affected. [Reply]
Originally Posted by VAChief:
Sadly, I think it will take losing 100 games two years in a row for significant changes to be made in the front office...and even then only because Dimwit might start to worry about the value being affected.
Mozeliak is sure acting like a guy with the job security to survive whatever catastrophe befalls the team this season...
Remember when guys used to come here and then blossom? The org used to be able to find guys like Ryan Ludwick and Chris Carpenter off the scrap heap. Now they send out Zac Gallen, Adolis Garcia, and Arozarena to be someone else's All-Stars. [Reply]
Dewitt’s got this. No worries Cardinal fans. Nothing to see here.
We haven’t had an April like this since (the DeWitt family) has been involved,” Bill DeWitt III said. “It’s a real clunker. You have to go back in history to see months where we’ve been this bad. But again, I think a lot of it, you can explain away. Some of our underlying statistics would indicate that if those (numbers) stay where they are, there ought to be some mean reversion here.”
“I still feel really good about the team and roster,” he added. “I mean, you don’t have a situation where there are glaring spots occurring. Of course, you’d love for the pitching to be a little better, but I think you’re just seeing a number of things that appear to be unusual, one-off situations in April. At least I hope so.” [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Dewitt’s got this. No worries Cardinal fans. Nothing to see here.
We haven’t had an April like this since (the DeWitt family) has been involved,” Bill DeWitt III said. “It’s a real clunker. You have to go back in history to see months where we’ve been this bad. But again, I think a lot of it, you can explain away. Some of our underlying statistics would indicate that if those (numbers) stay where they are, there ought to be some mean reversion here.”
“I still feel really good about the team and roster,” he added. “I mean, you don’t have a situation where there are glaring spots occurring. Of course, you’d love for the pitching to be a little better, but I think you’re just seeing a number of things that appear to be unusual, one-off situations in April. At least I hope so.”
Like I said - we're back to the Matheny "Hope as a Plan" era.
If something isn't working - just hope harder. That's gonna fix it.
This entire season was based on precisely that. Mikolas and Wainwright won't age. Matz will suddenly be good. Flaherty will stay healthy and recover stuff he hasn't had for 3 years. Hicks will suddenly start missing bats, Cabrera will find command. The whole damn thing was a total house of cards based on nothing but hope.
We've been here. We've seen this. And we had largely started working our way out of it when we fired the guy who objected to maintaining that approach going forward. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marco Polo:
At this point, you just have to hope that the team will be .500 by the end of the season. There's no doubt that the "Cardinal Way" is obsolete with no life in the team. Perhaps this season needed to happen for changes to be made. Mo is still an idiot for not trading for Soto with the extra OF that we have or trading for SP with the same excess OF that we have. I plan on going to another 7-8 games this year so hopefully they win at least one. So far I'm 0-2 in games this year.
Why would you hope for .500? Good lord that's like the worst possible scenerio [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Like I said - we're back to the Matheny "Hope as a Plan" era.
If something isn't working - just hope harder. That's gonna fix it.
This entire season was based on precisely that. Mikolas and Wainwright won't age. Matz will suddenly be good. Flaherty will stay healthy and recover stuff he hasn't had for 3 years. Hicks will suddenly start missing bats, Cabrera will find command. The whole damn thing was a total house of cards based on nothing but hope.
We've been here. We've seen this. And we had largely started working our way out of it when we fired the guy who objected to maintaining that approach going forward.
Ollie will certainly call out his players but I bet he wouldn't say shit about Mo under any circumstances. The only thing worse than the blatant penny pinching is the undeserved confidence they try to use to cow the fans and the people in the organization. The real unfortunate thing is that shit is working. [Reply]