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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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DRM08 12:04 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Who cares what PFF says with their crappy matrix of shit. We know Mahomes is the best and yesterday he proved it again.
Hopefully it fuels Mahomes' fire to keep making these people look like morons. That's the second time he has been listed #8 recently. Maybe he'll drop a 8 TD game on them soon.
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Sassy Squatch 12:08 PM 09-12-2022
:-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
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TLO 12:12 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
:-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
I don't get why people don't understand those are 100% free throws to do whatever you want with. Mahomes can do whatever he wants on those play.
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DRM08 12:13 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
:-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Nah, Mahomes had two bad throws in the game. One was the defensive offsides play, but the one PFF is talking about was an attempted throw to the end zone. Noah Gray had to prevent the defender from intercepting it. Terrible throw by Mahomes. But ya know what? Josh Allen was also 100% responsible for an interception in his game as well.

The PFF guy acknowledged they were basically equal, yet he has not explained how Allen ended up with a 20 point higher grade. I want an explanation of why Davis Mills and Tom Brady were graded pretty much the same as Mahomes. It's laughable.
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Bearcat 12:14 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
It's obvious at this point that they just don't like Mahomes' style of play.
Yeah, over-analyzing risk/reward and maybe things like leaving a clean pocket, throwing across his body, etc.

Glancing through stat lines, I don't really care about Allen's score as he had a really good night... Lamar and Brady relative to Mahomes are the head scratchers, IMO. Lamar completed 56% for 214, 3 TDs, 1 INT.. sacked twice and only 17 yards on the ground.

Yeah, just throw out the algorithms and start over. :-)
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RealSNR 12:17 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
:-) Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Also, I never get their fascination with "expected" turnovers.

Some plays you can clearly say, "Yeah, that should have been a turnover," but I'll bet not ALL of them are that clear and do require some subjectivity. So where does the line get drawn?

If I'm reading this correctly, Josh Allen's two actual picks (one of them not his fault at all and one of them kind of was) didn't dock him as much as Mahomes' one expected turnover... ON A FREAKIN OFFSIDES FREE PLAY

It's maddening. I have no idea how these choads stay in business.
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Sassy Squatch 12:22 PM 09-12-2022
:-) firing off panic tweets adding fuel to the fire.
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htismaqe 12:25 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Did you watch any of Tua?

Talk about being exactly what we thought they'd be. "More accurate than Mahomes" was the running joke in my house yesterday.
I watched the entire game. He made some good throws but man did he make some TERRIBLE passes in the short game. They could have had so much more offense if he could avoid short-hopping 6-yard in routes.
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Hoover 12:28 PM 09-12-2022
Sean Payton is on Cowherd right now. Says Mahomes was the best QB he ever evaluated. Gushing over him and talking about the Mahomes draft.

Incredible.
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DRM08 12:29 PM 09-12-2022
Old story, but cool to see Sean Payton talk about this again. Chiefs traded to the perfect spot to get Patrick. Saints were gonna draft him #11.

“The best quarterback I’d ever seen on college tape.”
pic.twitter.com/AeIYipYZEO

— KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) September 12, 2022

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staylor26 12:34 PM 09-12-2022

“Is our grading system flawed? No, it’s everyone with eyes who are wrong”

— Bubba (@Bubba12117) September 12, 2022

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BWillie 12:36 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
PFF is just embarrassing themselves with this

They are complete retards. I don't really know any other way to say it. I watched the Cowboys and Bucs game as well and Brady looked extremely pedestrian.
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RedinTexas 12:42 PM 09-12-2022
Rating all these guys ahead of Patrick reminds me of the old Buddy Ryan quote meant to be dismissive of Chris Carter when he said "All he does is catch touchdown passes."
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TomBarndtsTwin 12:44 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
PFF is just embarrassing themselves with this

This, right here, is why NO ONE should ever take seriously ANYTHING that PFF puts out there.

Mahomes has one of his Top 5 regular season games in his career, and he's only deemed the 8th best QB from Week 1? I mean, WTF?!?
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Mr. Plow 12:52 PM 09-12-2022
Originally Posted by SupDock:



What a good dude.
Saw that live. Was hilarious. Pacheco throws the ball and you immediately see Mahomes go over to grab it. I imagine the conversation when he gave it back to him was something like "Uhhh, hey rookie. You're gonna want this ball dumbass." :-)
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