Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.
Some major overreaction on both sides. Adding Clark isn't going to make KC a top 10 defense nor is going to hamper them from being one with some more good moves. I would have liked if KC waited to see who was available tomorrow night, but obviously, that didn't matter to Veach. [Reply]
You can argue the value of the compensation, but in Spags’ scheme he absolutely is. Can you see Dee lining up in a 6 tech? No shade at all. These are schematically relevant differences and people lump all edge guys together. https://t.co/5AJPO7QTqO
Originally Posted by Iconic:
What I do believe is the combination of a first round pick, second round pick, and ability to sign any star in future FA's to the tune of 20m AAV is better than what Frank Clark will produce here in KC.
The draft is a crap shoot, and even if you nail it a rookie DL will need 2-3 seasons to mature.
And in 3 seasons, we can get out of the Clark deal judging by early reports.
Also, what's the point of cap space if you don't use it?
Cap space doesn't win championships. Talent does.
Since i joined in '05 ive never understood CP's over infatuation with cap space.
Sometimes it feels like all ya'll care about is Clark saving money.
Thank god Clark is more interested in winning a Championship than some of our fans... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Yeah, we BETTER wreck worlds. That's where were at now. That grace period I was ready to give this defense just went RIGHT out the ****ing window.
And that little **** stick GM of ours better have an idea or three for LB and CB while he's throwing $$$ around like a drunk sailor, the little prick.
well...YEAH. That's the whole fucking idea.
We're ALL IN. But not just for 2019. Clark is 25 years old. We're all in for the next several years.
Clark is Dee Ford but WAY BETTER.
Other than the off the field issues there's absolutely nothing not to like here. There is no #29 that you could bank on producing immediately at all, let alone being the force that Clark is. Clark is a fucking stud DE. Anybody who thinks Clowney is better hasn't been watching either of them since they were drafted. [Reply]
If the Frank Clark contract is structured similar to the DeMarcus Lawrence deal, expect the $63.5 million guaranteed to come during the first three years. Lawrence's deal is structured with an opt-out after three years that spreads $10 million in dead money to the fourth year.
Seems to me giving up valuable draft picks for the right to pay someone market value doesn't make a whole lot of sense, especially in the long run if one is hoping on building a dynasty. Has New England EVER done this? [Reply]
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Dramatic move for Chiefs defense
In Kansas City, Clark would become the edge-rush centerpiece of a defense that finished 31st in total defense in 2018 but will be guided by a new coordinator in Steve Spagnuolo, who is switching from the 3-4 scheme the Chiefs operated under the previous six years under former coordinator Bob Sutton.
The scheme change led to the offseason jettisoning of two longtime members of the Chiefs’ pass rush, as Ford was dealt to San Francisco for a 2020 second-round pick and Justin Houston was released. The Chiefs have added beefier defensive ends — a better scheme fit for Spagnuolo — since then, as they signed Alex Okafor to a three-year deal, traded safety Eric Murray to Cleveland for defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah and signed Jeremiah Attaochu to a one-year deal.
The addition of the 6-foot-3, 265-pound Clark — who fits the physical profile of the type of ends Spagnuolo likes — would be the biggest of all, provided the two sides reach an official agreement on a deal that is expected to be similar to the five-year, $105 million extension that defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence signed with the Cowboys (which included $65 million guaranteed).
After a year in which the Chiefs finished 12-4 and fell a few plays short of the Super Bowl, Kansas City was willing to surrender draft assets for Clark as a part of its ongoing effort to go all-in in 2020, due to the club’s desire to put the best team possible around reigning MVP Patrick Mahomes right before he likely signs a mega-deal next offseason.
If Mahomes were to sign a mega-deal in January (the earliest an extension could be done), it will tie up a decent amount of salary-cap space for the near future, thus increasing the importance of drafting and developing cheap, cost-controlled talent.
The club would be betting that Clark’s youth (he turns 26 in June), and energy and reliability (he played in 62 of a possible 64 regular-season games) will allow him to be a part of the team’s foundation for years.
On the field, Clark plays with a passion, enthusiasm and edge that the Chiefs have placed a high premium on since general manager Brett Veach took over the summer of 2017, with the belief that those traits often lead to playoff success and generally help prevent the type of January failures the Chiefs have endured on that side of the ball since coach Andy Reid took over in 2013. It’s no coincidence that new safety Tyrann Mathieu, who the Chiefs signed to a three-year, $42 million deal in March to be a defensive leader and tempo setter, has many of those same traits.
Character concerns for Clark
The trade for Clark comes with risks for the Chiefs, particularly from a public relations point of view. Clark was kicked out of the University of Michigan in November 2014 following an arrest for domestic violence. After an investigation, the prosecuting attorney in the case determined that contrary to what the police report seemed to suggest, Clark did not strike his girlfriend. Clark instead pled to disorderly conduct, and was taken by the Seahawks in the second round of the 2015 NFL draft.
Since then, Clark has stayed out of trouble and blossomed into one of the league’s most productive pass rushers. The Chiefs would need Clark to remain on point on both counts, especially considering the team’s recent history regarding players with off-field issues.
This past November, the club released star running back Kareem Hunt after he was captured on video shoving and kicking a woman in the hallway of a Cleveland hotel, and police are currently investigating whether star receiver Tyreek Hill is involved in an alleged battery incident involving his 3-year old son.
Regardless of how the Hill investigation shakes out — and even if he’s cleared, the NFL’s personal conduct policy is believed to be vague enough that the NFL still has the authority to discipline him — the Chiefs should be in the market for a wide receiver somewhere in this year’s draft, which starts Thursday.
But the acquisition of Clark frees up the Chiefs to go after other positions of need in the draft with their remaining seven picks in 2019.
