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RunKC 10:13 AM 12-08-2014
It's Raiders week and I really don't care about them that much. I hate their fans. I hate their stadium. I hate everything about them. But I'm jealous. I'm jealous of the Raiders for the second time in my entire life. The first was with Rich Gannon, who we threw away. We know the story and what they went on to do.

But this week I'm jealous of them for the second time in my life.
I can't believe that John Dorsey passed on a QB that reminds me a lot of what makes Aaron Rodgers good. Great arm. Great leadership. Great feet. Just needs coaching.

I'm looking back at the Senior Bowl last year and am seeing the following statements about this young man:

"Derek carr's velocity, especially in the gusty wind, was once again impressive. When it comes to arm strength, he really has no competition."

"Carr looked very athletic in an escape drill showcasing his impression footwork."

I saw tweets like this that made me appreciate him

@nfldraftscout: Derek Carr won me over at the Senior Bowl...where he stayed after practice every day to get extra reps with new WRs.

@ryanlownes: @JimmyKempski Ran routes for Derek Carr after practice every day at the Senior Bowl. No shortage of work ethic or competitiveness.

And then I remember us this tweet on the day of the draft:

@KanCityChiefFan: Mort: Kansas City Chiefs are a sleeper QB team in 2014 NFL Draft - Arrowhead Pride (blog) http://t.co/Pn0XVl203s

I thought this regime would be different. I really did. I didn't mind Alex as a stop gap while we developed a guy like GB did with Rodgers, but it's always the same with this franchise.

Now we have to watch the team we all hate with a good looking QB of the future that we should have drafted.
Such is life as a Chiefs fan..
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New World Order 10:35 PM 10-12-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
It's like people forgot how he looked against us and Denver last season. He was horrendous. Poor decision making. He started this season playing horrible defenses, law of averages will catch up with him...

Baltimore has the third best defense in the league. He threw for 4 touchdowns and had a 123 rating.

Would you rather have Alex Smith or Derrick Carr?
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Dave Lane 11:17 PM 10-12-2016
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Baltimore has the third best defense in the league. He threw for 4 touchdowns and had a 123 rating.

Would you rather have Alex Smith or Derrick Carr?
Is this actually a question or just a rhetorical statement?
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mcaj22 11:24 PM 10-12-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
It's like people forgot how he looked against us and Denver last season. He was horrendous. Poor decision making. He started this season playing horrible defenses, law of averages will catch up with him...
you can literally say the same thing about Alex's success against actual starting NFL QBs vs 2nd Stringers/3rd stringers/journeymen QBs
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Nickhead 11:52 PM 10-12-2016
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
you can literally say the same thing about Alex's success against actual starting NFL QBs vs 2nd Stringers/3rd stringers/journeymen QBs
was thinking the same, didn't want to pile on LOL :-)
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 03:20 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
you can literally say the same thing about Alex's success against actual starting NFL QBs vs 2nd Stringers/3rd stringers/journeymen QBs
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
was thinking the same, didn't want to pile on LOL :-)
Since when do QBs play defense against each other? Did a bunch of you get together and choose to drink arsenic???
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Nickhead 03:35 AM 10-13-2016
12 years in the league. you should be shredding like rapist ben, tom bra Deflate, tranny mannings, but instead he plays like splatt shaub, tent differ. for fucks sake he's not even better than jim harbaugh back in his day. and he coached him.
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Nickhead 03:37 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
Since when do QBs play defense against each other? Did a bunch of you get together and choose to drink arsenic???
you saying the defense is the reason the offense isnt scoring. maybe 27 yard punts have something to do. or two touchdowns being called back. the defense is playing DEFENSE.. instead of offense this year.
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MotherfuckerJones 04:43 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
What's his QBR against defenses in the top third last season? IIRC he was well below 35. Raiders had a soft schedule last year too. Remember when Andrew luck was getting more hype than Russell Wilson a few years ago when he was playing one of the easiest schedules that year? Look at him now... Quit drinking the ESPN Kool aid
He's also been playing on one leg
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New World Order 06:42 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
Is this actually a question or just a rhetorical statement?

Serious question Mr. Lane.

Our friend Tiger has yet to answer.
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New World Order 06:45 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
What's his QBR against defenses in the top third last season? IIRC he was well below 35. Raiders had a soft schedule last year too. Remember when Andrew luck was getting more hype than Russell Wilson a few years ago when he was playing one of the easiest schedules that year? Look at him now... Quit drinking the ESPN Kool aid
That the year Luck went to the AFC title game?
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Pasta Little Brioni 06:52 AM 10-13-2016
Carr shits his pants and Alex starts running this week. Cakn Clayton nut sack curse...
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New World Order 07:03 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Carr shits his pants and Alex starts running this week. Cakn Clayton nut sack curse...
Madden 04 Mike Vick style.
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dls6501 10:23 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
Since when do QBs play defense against each other?
How many times in Alex's career has he played exceptional football against a top tier defense? Ever?

I am seriously asking.
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Discuss Thrower 10:26 AM 10-13-2016
Originally Posted by dls6501:
How many times in Alex's career has he played exceptional football against a top tier defense? Ever?

I am seriously asking.
Playing against a good defense is the second biggest excuse as to why the 49ers didn't make the SB in 2011 behind Kyle Williams.
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OctoberFart 07:05 PM 10-21-2016
Originally Posted by dls6501:
How many times in Alex's career has he played exceptional football against a top tier defense? Ever?

I am seriously asking.
I'm sure someone can cherry pick some stats.
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