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Nzoner's Game Room>Do we want DeHop?
ROYC75 01:21 PM 03-01-2023
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Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?
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Megatron96 11:30 AM 03-03-2023
Yeah, and while Gary Clark was great, he also benefitted from the fact that he played with the likes of Art Monk? R. Sanders? His QB was Doug Williams/Theisman!?!?

D. Mason same type of circumstances.

Not saying DHop is head and shoulders better than either, but those guys aren't better than DHop either.
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BleedingRed 11:38 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Yeah, and while Gary Clark was great, he also benefitted from the fact that he played with the likes of Art Monk? R. Sanders? His QB was Doug Williams/Theisman!?!?

D. Mason same type of circumstances.

Not saying DHop is head and shoulders better than either, but those guys aren't better than DHop either.
I'll say it, Hopkins has as many yards a Mason in 7 fewer seasons.......
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jettio 11:38 AM 03-03-2023
Chiefs 3 losses last year all had untimely turnovers and penalties from our Hall of Famers Mahomes, Jones and Kelce.

No need to bring Hopkins here to boost the WR room and have to pay him what he deserves to be paid.

I say use money to extend Sneed and Chris Jones and work out something with Clark that is less AAV than current deal.

Next offseason, Gay, Bolton, Humphrey and Smith might be seeking an extension.
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BleedingRed 11:40 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by jettio:
Chiefs 3 losses last year all had untimely turnovers and penalties from our Hall of Famers Mahomes, Jones and Kelce.

No need to bring Hopkins here to boost the WR room and have to pay him what he deserves to be paid.

I say use money to extend Sneed and Chris Jones and work out something with Clark that is less AAV than current deal.

Next offseason, Gay, Bolton, Humphrey and Smith might be seeking an extension.
We can't keep everyone,

So it becomes a maximize the window type process. The argument is do you think Mahomes having another Kelce level route runner would make our offense impossible to stop.
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St. Patty's Fire 11:46 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
We can't keep everyone,

So it becomes a maximize the window type process. The argument is do you think Mahomes having another Kelce level route runner would make our offense impossible to stop.
we were impossible to stop with JAGs at receiver. if we added dehop to this offense, it would be 2018 levels of dominance. especially when considering toney and pacheco getting more snaps and being more integral to the overall offense next year as well.
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Rainbarrel 11:49 AM 03-03-2023
Sometimes two beaters are better than a used escalade
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KCJake 11:51 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel:
Sometimes two beaters are better than a used escalade
I agree. Let the Browns or Panthers over pay for this guy
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Mecca 11:54 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba:
And HOF ??? What makes you so sure about that?

What has DHop ever led the league in anything at his position? Any real trophies?
He's a 5 time first team all pro...
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jettio 11:56 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
We can't keep everyone,

So it becomes a maximize the window type process. The argument is do you think Mahomes having another Kelce level route runner would make our offense impossible to stop.
It prefer develop the young guys. This ingredient to be "impossible to stop" is not needed.

Mahomes is so good at processing and buying time that he throws to open guys.

Compared to the other HOF QBs, Mahomes does not require his receivers to make contested catches.

And Kelce makes decisions on where to go during the play. If Hopkins were on team and healthy, I am sure he could be productive, but he deserves to be paid a lot and Chiefs may not need him.

And Hopkins personality is like a hard-working Alpha that competes hard as hell but does not show much joy. Maybe he would not be a great fit.
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Megatron96 11:57 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel:
Sometimes two beaters are better than a used escalade
Under what circumstances?

And are you actually saying DHop is an Escalade?:-) Try Porsche 911 turbo.
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Mecca 11:57 AM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by jettio:
It prefer develop the young guys. This ingredient to be "impossible to stop" is not needed.

Mahomes is so good at processing and buying time that he throws to open guys.

Compared to the other HOF QBs, Mahomes does not require his receivers to make contested catches.

And Kelce makes decisions on where to go during the play. If Hopkins were on team and healthy, I am sure he could be productive, but he deserves to be paid a lot and Chiefs may not need him.

And Hopkins personality is like a hard-working Alpha that competes hard as hell but does not show much joy. Maybe he would not be a great fit.
We're not going to hit on every pick or keep every player, you weigh risk assessment here in your windows.
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Megatron96 12:01 PM 03-03-2023
It’s funny, because just a year or two ago some of us were saying how we really didn’t want to end up with Mahomes having to carry the offense a la Rodgers/GB, due to the lack of top-tier weapons, and most on here agreed that we didn’t want to put Pat in that situation.

Now we have people actively wanting that.
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Mecca 12:04 PM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
It’s funny, because just a year or two ago some of us were saying how we really didn’t want to end up with Mahomes having to carry the offense a la Rodgers/GB, due to the lack of top-tier weapons, and most on here agreed that we didn’t want to put Pat in that situation.

Now we have people actively wanting that.
It's weird to because it's not like we have a metric shit ton of huge contracts, we aren't the Eagles or 49ers.
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Rainbarrel 12:09 PM 03-03-2023
Mahomes is the one footing the maintenance bill on that used 911 turbo
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htismaqe 12:12 PM 03-03-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
It’s funny, because just a year or two ago some of us were saying how we really didn’t want to end up with Mahomes having to carry the offense a la Rodgers/GB, due to the lack of top-tier weapons, and most on here agreed that we didn’t want to put Pat in that situation.

Now we have people actively wanting that.
Recency bias.
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