If Kingsley is on the board, I’ll be shocked if he’s not the pick.
If he’s off the board and a blue chipper doesn’t somehow fall in our laps, I bet we move down. Tons of talent in that 70-90 range and the difference between 32 and 45-48 this year isn’t a huge dropoff.
I can see Veach extracting value when he gets stonewalled from trading up again.
In this draft, I’d rather trade back to around the colts puck and add an additional third.
46 and 82 are almost an exact trade for pick 32, based on the draft value chart. [Reply]
Bruce Feldman’s coaching intel on first rd prospects:
AD Mitchell
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He’s big and physical and has really strong hands. And he can move like a guy 30 pounds lighter.”
“He’s pretty. You see him in warmups and you’re like, ‘I can see why he was at Georgia.’ He makes things look too easy.”
“He adjusts to the ball better than a lot of top-notch receivers. Great red zone weapon. Ridiculous ability to separate. The downside: Consistency. He doesn’t always run routes at full speed. He will float through routes at times.”
Xavier Worthy
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“Electric. I think he’s a really good receiver. He reminds me of DeSean Jackson. He can go the distance every time he touches it. I don’t think he’s not physical. I’ll say this: He isn’t little. He’s long. He’s just skinny.”
“He’s so fast, you couldn’t blink when he’s out there.”
Amarius Mims
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The Coaching Intel
“Freak athletically, but still pretty raw. Not a road grader. More of a dancing bear.”
“He’s like a freak of nature. Massive but very athletic. Has good feet but he’s so high-cut, he struggles with guys that can bend because he’s a little stiff-hipped.”
Tyler Guyton
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The Coaching Intel
“He still needs to get stronger and he tends to play too high, but he can do some things out there that are pretty special, given how big he is. He is so smooth and he isn’t on the ground much.”
“I don’t think their system helped him because they played so fast in that offense, I think it’s hard to be consistent for those big guys because they’re sprinting to the ball all the time. They look s—- sometimes because they’re gassed. I think he’ll be a much better pro than college player.”
Johnny Newton
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He is crafty and slick with some good moves and heavy hands. He’s just got a great feel for things in there. This guy is a stud.”
Ladd McConkey (pick 54. On here bc Browns took him and they don’t have a 1st)
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“I think he had really good top-end (speed) and short area quickness. He’s an excellent route runner. I thought he was way better than people gave him credit for. I’m not surprised to hear he tested so well at the combine.”
“He’s more of a pure slot, but damn, he is fast and sudden. In a different offense, or if (Georgia) didn’t have Bowers, he probably would’ve put up big numbers.”
Kool Aid McKinstry
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He had some struggles early in (2023) but is a good player. He’s a pretty fluid DB, but I questioned his speed. He’s not that twitchy.”
“Really smart and savvy. Not as quick out of his break as Arnold. He uses his hands to make up for his feet. Will jump routes.”
Rest of the guys from OP weren’t on this mock. They’re 2nd rd picks [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Bruce Feldman’s coaching intel on first rd prospects:
AD Mitchell
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He’s big and physical and has really strong hands. And he can move like a guy 30 pounds lighter.”
“He’s pretty. You see him in warmups and you’re like, ‘I can see why he was at Georgia.’ He makes things look too easy.”
“He adjusts to the ball better than a lot of top-notch receivers. Great red zone weapon. Ridiculous ability to separate. The downside: Consistency. He doesn’t always run routes at full speed. He will float through routes at times.”
Xavier Worthy
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“Electric. I think he’s a really good receiver. He reminds me of DeSean Jackson. He can go the distance every time he touches it. I don’t think he’s not physical. I’ll say this: He isn’t little. He’s long. He’s just skinny.”
“He’s so fast, you couldn’t blink when he’s out there.”
Amarius Mims
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“Freak athletically, but still pretty raw. Not a road grader. More of a dancing bear.”
“He’s like a freak of nature. Massive but very athletic. Has good feet but he’s so high-cut, he struggles with guys that can bend because he’s a little stiff-hipped.”
Tyler Guyton
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He still needs to get stronger and he tends to play too high, but he can do some things out there that are pretty special, given how big he is. He is so smooth and he isn’t on the ground much.”
“I don’t think their system helped him because they played so fast in that offense, I think it’s hard to be consistent for those big guys because they’re sprinting to the ball all the time. They look s—- sometimes because they’re gassed. I think he’ll be a much better pro than college player.”
Johnny Newton
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He is crafty and slick with some good moves and heavy hands. He’s just got a great feel for things in there. This guy is a stud.”
Ladd McConkey (pick 54. On here bc Browns took him and they don’t have a 1st)
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“I think he had really good top-end (speed) and short area quickness. He’s an excellent route runner. I thought he was way better than people gave him credit for. I’m not surprised to hear he tested so well at the combine.”
“He’s more of a pure slot, but damn, he is fast and sudden. In a different offense, or if (Georgia) didn’t have Bowers, he probably would’ve put up big numbers.”
Kool Aid McKinstry
Spoiler!
The Coaching Intel
“He had some struggles early in (2023) but is a good player. He’s a pretty fluid DB, but I questioned his speed. He’s not that twitchy.”
“Really smart and savvy. Not as quick out of his break as Arnold. He uses his hands to make up for his feet. Will jump routes.”
Rest of the guys from OP weren’t on this mock. They’re 2nd rd picks
What does he say about these two?
Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
Jordan Morgan, Arizona [Reply]
As noted in the tackle thread, Morgan has too many red flags with his size (weight), arm length and a bad injury history. Just don’t think he’s a 1st rd player.
Patrick Paul has size, athleticism, experience at LT and he had a top 30 visit with us. Top 40 pick in every mock I’ve seen.
I think he’s a backup plan who could be taken at 32 [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Would switch out Jordan Morgan for Patrick Paul.
As noted in the tackle thread, Morgan has too many red flags with his size (weight), arm length and a bad injury history. Just don’t think he’s a 1st rd player.
Patrick Paul has size, athleticism, experience at LT and he had a top 30 visit with us. Top 40 pick in every mock I’ve seen.
I think he’s a backup plan who could be taken at 32
I am skeptical Paul has the quickness to handle speed rushers at LT. I would be very nervous if they took him at 32 with Morgan and Suamataia available.
Morgan's arm length isn't great, but everything else ticks the box. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I'm starting to see BTJ slip to us at #32 in a few drafts, notably on the PFF youtube show recently... Wondering if he might be a possibility.
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I'm starting to see BTJ slip to us at #32 in a few drafts, notably on the PFF youtube show recently... Wondering if he might be a possibility.
The guys who run that have him ranked like 8th on their big boards. Seems unlikely. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I'm starting to see BTJ slip to us at #32 in a few drafts, notably on the PFF youtube show recently... Wondering if he might be a possibility.
That pick should be turned in about 0.5 seconds if that occurred... [Reply]
The LT issue might be too great for us to pass on as one in the first rd. Wanya really struggled in a few games and seems to be a perfect swing tackle instead of a starting LT.
Continuing to rely on old declining LT vets is not a sustainable long term plan. Donovan Smith has been injured in back-to-back years and we were damn lucky he didn’t miss the playoffs with that neck injury. He’s a ticking time bomb.
I think with the strength of this tackle class the Chiefs need to identify their realistic option at LT and pull the trigger. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The LT issue might be too great for us to pass on as one in the first rd. Wanya really struggled in a few games and seems to be a perfect swing tackle instead of a starting LT.
Continuing to rely on old declining LT vets is not a sustainable long term plan. Donovan Smith has been injured in back-to-back years and we were damn lucky he didn’t miss the playoffs with that neck injury. He’s a ticking time bomb.
I think with the strength of this tackle class the Chiefs need to identify their realistic option at LT and pull the trigger.
Still think they'll trade up if they're dead set on getting their LT of the future. It's just not a position where they'll take whatever is left at 32. [Reply]
