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wazu 08:20 AM 08-08-2023

we haven't even had 1 preseason game yet...

and players are complaining to the HC about the OC behind his back...

and then the HC is airing that laundry publicly in the media without wholesale defending his handpicked OC

yikes https://t.co/1SsJiINoVj

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) August 8, 2023

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staylor26 02:30 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Lol, Sunday was literally Howell's 4th NFL game. Talk about unwarranted bias . . . :-)
I don't think it's a stretch to say that Sam Howell likely isn't a franchise QB, but sure, he still can be. Am I just not allowed to say that I don't believe in him though?

Also, who said anything about "unwarranted bias"? This must be a touchy subject for you, because you seem very upset about nothing.
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ThaVirus 02:33 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
This is pretty simple. They played two bad teams to start the season, and they looked really good offensively.

They played a good team yesterday, and got their shit pushed in.

It doesn't mean that EB is a failure, or now it's time to pile on and write him off.

I'm not saying we should now overreact to one game, just that people overreacted to the first 2.

The jury is still out, but considering he's attached to Sam Howell, my guess is that it's not going to be a good year overall.
I know what you’re saying. I was more so commenting on the general drift of this thread.

People love their hot takes.
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Megatron96 02:34 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I don't think it's a stretch to say that Sam Howell likely isn't a franchise QB, but sure, he still can be. Am I just now allowed to say that I don't believe in him though?

Also, who said anything about "unwarranted bias". This must be a touchy subject for you, because you seem very upset about nothing.


What? I'm laughing over here. Maybe that's how I register 'upset'?:-)


Howell's a roll of the dice. He's got more potential than Brissett, so obviously EB took a chance on him. But with the big arm and mobility, you also get gunslinger mentality, so he holds the ball too long and takes big risks, because he wants to make big plays, shocker.

Pretty basic.

Oh here's me upset, just to make you happy:-)
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staylor26 02:35 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
What? I'm laughing over here. Maybe that's how I register 'upset'?:-)


Howell's a roll of the dice. He's got more potential than Brissett, so obviously EB took a chance on him. But with the big arm and mobility, you also get gunslinger mentality, so he holds the ball too long and takes big risks, because he wants to make big plays, shocker.

Pretty basic.

Oh here's me upset, just to make you happy:-)
The laughing comes off a little passive aggressive considering I'm not joking, and I clearly didn't say anything outlandish to warrant it.

Maybe mad is a better word? You mad?

Sorry that I'm not buying Sam Howell as a franchise QB bruh!
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Shields68 02:39 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
This is pretty simple. They played two bad teams to start the season, and they looked really good offensively.

They played a good team yesterday, and got their shit pushed in.

It doesn't mean that EB is a failure, or now it's time to pile on and write him off.

I'm not saying we should now overreact to one game, just that people overreacted to the first 2.

The jury is still out, but considering he's attached to Sam Howell, my guess is that it's not going to be a good year overall.
I would say the offense at best was below average looking against the Cardinals. I mean they put up 20 points. 10 of which really set up by the Dee with a 29 yd td drive and a field goal after a 7 yd drive. They only had 248 total yds.

Basically they had 1 game were they ran really well against Denver and after watching Denver against Miami...
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Megatron96 02:42 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
The laughing comes off a little passive aggressive considering I'm not joking, and I clearly didn't say anything outlandish to warrant it.

Maybe mad is a better word? You mad?

Sorry that I'm not buying Sam Howell as a franchise QB bruh!


Lol, okay if it makes you feel better, I'm mad.


No one ever said Howell was a franchise QB. At least I didn't, and I'm sure others said the same thing.

I said he had the physical tools to be a starting QB. That's clearly not the same thing.

Obviously, the kid needs some seasoning, and he clearly needs to learn to take what the defense gives him, instead of holding the ball forever trying to play hero ball. Especially behind that OL. If he figures it out, he'll be okay.

We'll see where he's at in about 15 weeks.
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wachashi 03:27 PM 09-25-2023
The Washington offensive line is BAD. Wylie, in particular, has been awful (shouldn't surprise EB).

EB will have to figure out a way to keep his QB upright, or things could start to unravel.
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Megatron96 03:38 PM 09-25-2023
Originally Posted by wachashi:
The Washington offensive line is BAD. Wylie, in particular, has been awful (shouldn't surprise EB).

EB will have to figure out a way to keep his QB upright, or things could start to unravel.


They've (OL) had good reps, even good halfs, but overall, yeah, they kind of stink.

WAS is currently giving up over 70% pressures on the season. I think in this last game they gave up 80%. No QB is going to play well under those conditions. Now, a significant chunk of that is Howell just holding the ball way too long, but you gotta figure around half of that or more is the OL.

Either way, the OL needs to play better just to give Howell enough to time to actually get to his 2nd read. Maybe even his 3rd. But that maybe asking too much. Enough time to get his head up and take a quick look at a 2nd option would be nice.

The other consideration is that Howell is probably a slow processor. If he can't speed that up, or if EB can't find a way to speed that up, well, it'll be a long season for the Commanders and EB.
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Megatron96 06:17 PM 10-04-2023
Anyone actually watch the first drive by WAS vs. PHI? Watching the replay right now, and EB's opening drive script was, well, damned near perfect. Right up until the LT decided to brainfart and false started inside the 10. Got a lucky flag against PHI to get it back to 1st and goal, then punched it in in two plays.

No sacks, no negative plays, the one flag, 4/6 passing for 50 yards. 75 yards, 14 plays, TD.

Against a top-5 defense, and a Division opponent, that's pretty good.
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Megatron96 07:09 PM 10-04-2023
JC. There's no chance we can steal D. Smith from PHI, is there?
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Buehler445 07:30 PM 10-04-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
JC. There's no chance we can steal D. Smith from PHI, is there?
Unfortunately no. He's fucking good. Unfortunately.
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Chris Meck 07:34 PM 10-04-2023
Originally Posted by wachashi:
The Washington offensive line is BAD. Wylie, in particular, has been awful (shouldn't surprise EB).

EB will have to figure out a way to keep his QB upright, or things could start to unravel.
That's because Wylie...

Wait for it...


Blows goats.
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Megatron96 07:48 PM 10-04-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
That's because Wylie...

Wait for it...


Blows goats.

:-)
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Megatron96 07:50 PM 10-04-2023
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Unfortunately no. He's fucking good. Unfortunately.
Dangit. Ruins my plans for world domination.
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Buehler445 07:52 PM 10-04-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Dangit. Ruins my plans for world domination.
Who knew Kendall Fuller was still in the league?
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