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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>If the Chiefs took WR Christian Watson at 30…
DJ's left nut 09:26 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
Exactly this, Andy and Veach know way more about these guys then we ever will. So, if they feel like Watson is who they want I'll trust them.
They also took CEH. And were comfortable with Breeland Speaks commitment to being great. And Hardman's ability to digest the Xs and Os.

It's never a wise idea to simply check your own opinions at the door.

These guys DO get it wrong from time to time.
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staylor26 08:58 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Fucking Brugler has us taking Watson in his final mock.
Who else?
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The Franchise 09:22 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Who else?
Mafe.
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wachashi 09:09 AM 04-28-2022
DraftKings has Christian Watson over/under at 39.5 at -115.

Dotson at -140 to go earlier than 30.5

Moore at -115 to go later than 35.5

Burks at -124 to go earlier than 23.5

Pickens at -160 to later than 36.5
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MahomesMagic 09:14 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by wachashi:
DraftKings has Christian Watson over/under at 39.5 at -115.

Dotson at -140 to go earlier than 30.5

Moore at -115 to go later than 35.5

Burks at -124 to go earlier than 23.5

Pickens at -160 to later than 36.5
That's why I want to see a small move up for Burks, get ahead of Green Bay.
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The Franchise 09:24 AM 04-28-2022
Brugler also has Drake Jackson going to GB at 28. Karlaftis going at 23.
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The Franchise 09:24 AM 04-28-2022
Yeah....this inspires confidence.

Originally Posted by :
29. Kansas City Chiefs: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
A gazelle at wide receiver, Watson is 6-4, 210 pounds with 4.3 speed and is just scratching the surface. He needs to play up to his size more consistently and refine his routes, but the traits are undeniable.
That just screams...."HE'S BIG AND FAST!"
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MahomesMagic 09:35 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Yeah....this inspires confidence.



That just screams...."HE'S BIG AND FAST!"
Analytics...who cares about routes!
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Shoes 09:37 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Yeah....this inspires confidence.



That just screams...."HE'S BIG AND FAST!"
I will say though route running is something a good coaching staff can develop- Tyreek Hill being the most recent and obvious example. From fantastic athlete to maybe the most dangerous threat in the NFL, Tyreek came along way from his draft day. Even this most recent season with the way defenses were playing him over the top, he had to refine his route running to win routes within the first 12 yards.

Watson has that type of potential if you can unlock it. The lack of physicality doesn't concern me as much, I just need a receiver to win their routes and create separation.
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The Franchise 09:39 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by Shoes:
I will say though route running is something a good coaching staff can develop- Tyreek Hill being the most recent and obvious example. From fantastic athlete to maybe the most dangerous threat in the NFL, Tyreek came along way from his draft day. Even this most recent season with the way defenses were playing him over the top, he had to refine his route running to win routes within the first 12 yards.

Watson has that type of potential if you can unlock it. The lack of physicality doesn't concern me as much, I just need a receiver to win their routes and create separation.
Hill was way better coming into the NFL then people want to give him credit for.
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DJ's left nut 09:58 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Hill was way better coming into the NFL then people want to give him credit for.
Yup.

Hill had an innate ability to run routes from the moment he took the field. It's revisionist history to act like he was some RB out there running go routes.

His footwork and agility in/out of his breaks was always top shelf. That guy was born to play the position.
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Shoes 10:54 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yup.

Hill had an innate ability to run routes from the moment he took the field. It's revisionist history to act like he was some RB out there running go routes.

His footwork and agility in/out of his breaks was always top shelf. That guy was born to play the position.
I'm not suggesting that they took an elite athlete who had zero idea how to play receiver and turned him into one of the best in the NFL. It's obvious Hill was a natural for the position, but that being said most of his production came from gadget plays (reverses, sweeps, screens) and go routes his rookie season. His ability to play receiver from year 1 to his last season as a Chief has substantially gotten better. Not that he couldn't run routes in his rookie season but I think it's undeniable that he leaned heavily on his athleticism in his rookie year while as the years went on he had everything in his arsenal to throw at defenses.

That's not what we are arguing though- can Christian Watson who himself is a phenomenal athlete develop into a true #1 WR? If Watson didn't have any holes in his game we wouldn't be talking about being able to draft him at #29. High risk, high potential undoubtedly but I believe that our coaching staff would be able to get the most out of this player especially in our offense that wouldn't require him to carry the bulk of the load early on.
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kcbubb 10:25 AM 04-28-2022
That’s the gamble…. That watson has shown enough footwork and change of direction ability to get better at route running. I do think his gadget ability is not emphasized enough. He has those deebo like plays in him in space. Not sure why this ability isn’t valued here.
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MahomesMagic 11:00 AM 04-28-2022
I can think of 2 players that got way better at route running from college to the NFL.

Tyreek Hill and Steve Smith.

Theoretically possible but as dumb as drafting a DE high with limited pass rush moves and poor hands.
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Chris Meck 11:02 AM 04-28-2022
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I can think of 2 players that got way better at route running from college to the NFL.

Tyreek Hill and Steve Smith.

Theoretically possible but as dumb as drafting a DE high with limited pass rush moves and poor hands.
Are you fucking serious?

2 players got better at route running when they joined the NFL?

you know of TWO?

This wins for dumbest post I've ever seen.

EVER.

they ALL do, or they're selling used cars very quickly.

Dumb.
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