Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Obviously this game isn’t the Super Bowl, but it sure does feel like it’s for the Lombardi.
Don’t think there’s a chance in hell either NFC can beat Baltimore given what we saw this year between those teams.
I’d give them an outside chance against KC, but in a big spot like that, you know the Chiefs coming off the biggest road win in franchise history arguably would be so tough to defeat.
This defense isn't losing to Purdy or Goff. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Allen looked that way because they completely nerfed him, that coaching staff was scared he would fuck up and turn the ball over causing a loss.
He completed 16 balls behind the LOS, a playoff record. They literally ran the ball and turned him into charlie checkdown.
It says a lot when a coaching staff in their biggest game says to their best player "we really need you to not be you"
yea and it makes the “oh boo hoo the bills let josh down again” narrative all the more annoying
if lamar had under 200 yards on 40 passes the media would be going to TOWN on him. but joshi poo? oh no his bad bad receivers dropped balls [Reply]
I kinda feel like a Buccaneers vs Packers NFCCG is coming for us vs the Ravens.
Packers were really rolling by the end of that 2020-2021 season. Had the 1 seed. Won impressively against the Rams in the divisional round while Tampa won a close one against the Saints on the road.
Then they ran into Brady and an elite defense, just as the Buccaneers were starting to figure it out. Buccaneers jumped out early and the Packers came back, but couldn’t get over the hump and it was over. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I kinda feel like a Buccaneers vs Packers NFCCG is coming for us vs the Ravens.
Packers were really rolling by the end of that 2020-2021 season. Had the 1 seed. Won impressively against the Rams in the divisional round while Tampa won a close one against the Saints on the road.
Then they ran into Brady and an elite defense, just as the Buccaneers were starting to figure it out. Buccaneers jumped out early and the Packers came back, but couldn’t get over the hump and it was over.
There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting.
We don’t have the multitude of offensive weapons that they did, but Mahomes is better than that version of Brady was.
Mahomes also doesn’t have to beat Rodgers and Mahomes. He has to beat Lamar and Purdy/Goff.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all.
I’ve wondered a lot if the Ravens peaked too early. It’s hard to maintain that success for this long. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
There was a national analyst\talk show person who mentioned that the Chiefs are alot like that 2020 Bucs team a few weeks ago. Thought that was interesting.
I don't think you can read much -good or bad- into how the Chiefs' D defended Allen in the run game, as it relates to Lamar Jackson. They're just so different.
Both incredibly dangerous. With both, you have to have guys in the right place to make the play. With Allen, making the play involves actually bringing him down, and he's so big (and they're so willing to push a pile he's in the middle of), that even stopping him could still mean another 2-5 yards of "push" yards. With Jackson, it's more about not letting him make a move and get past you. He's not going to take on contact and drive you for a few extra, cheap yards, and their OL isn't going to come in and push/drive a pile with him in the middle. Not like Buffalo.
Allen also has so much arm strength and such crazy accuracy that he can do what he did for the TD to Shakir (which was a crazy throw/play the likes of which only a few can make... to escape, get to their non-throwing side, and then deliver that ball with that accuracy and that zip... you're basically talking Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, maybe Stroud, Herbert). Jackson just isn't going to make that type of throw (where you get everything you want on D and it still doesn't work). [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I don't think you can read much -good or bad- into how the Chiefs' D defended Allen in the run game, as it relates to Lamar Jackson. They're just so different.
Both incredibly dangerous. With both, you have to have guys in the right place to make the play. With Allen, making the play involves actually bringing him down, and he's so big (and they're so willing to push a pile he's in the middle of), that even stopping him could still mean another 2-5 yards of "push" yards. With Jackson, it's more about not letting him make a move and get past you. He's not going to take on contact and drive you for a few extra, cheap yards, and their OL isn't going to come in and push/drive a pile with him in the middle. Not like Buffalo.
Allen also has so much arm strength and such crazy accuracy that he can do what he did for the TD to Shakir (which was a crazy throw/play the likes of which only a few can make... to escape, get to their non-throwing side, and then deliver that ball with that accuracy and that zip... you're basically talking Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, maybe Stroud, Herbert). Jackson just isn't going to make that type of throw (where you get everything you want on D and it still doesn't work).
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
We don’t have the multitude of offensive weapons that they did, but Mahomes is better than that version of Brady was.
Mahomes also doesn’t have to beat Rodgers and Mahomes. He has to beat Lamar and Purdy/Goff.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all.
I’ve wondered a lot if the Ravens peaked too early. It’s hard to maintain that success for this long.
Agreed. I think your comparison could be right.
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Cowherd
Could have been but I don't really remember to be honest. It is interesting comparison along with what smithandrew posted. [Reply]
#Chiefs HC Andy Reid on differences between defending Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson as runners: "You have to stay to your lanes, you have to stay disciplined. Lamar is special. He's one of the fastest guys on the field. Lamar is shifty. Josh will go right through you, he doesn't care.…
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Baltimore and Chiefs haters are gonna twist and contort a lot of arguments, use a lot of regular season statistics, that’s all fine and well, do you
But you should know better by now. Mahomes is 1 of 1. The stats go out the window come playoffs. You are dealing with the best, most clutch player to ever wear cleats. Can you win? Sure. Does ANYTHING you’ve done up to this point matter? Nah.
Like it or not, the Regular season is our preseason. Not excited about that, but that seems to be the way the team played this year. Lack of focus, boredom...
It's playoff time now. Baltimore is a very good team, but you can't compare regular season Chiefs to playoff Chiefs. Vegas knows this, thus the line. We should be underdogs, but you can never count us out. If we lose, we lose, but if it's close, the pressure is going to be through the roof for the Ravens. If Lamar handles it and beats us, hats off. However, that is yet to be seen. [Reply]
