Traded 2nd & 3rd to move up in the 1st for Parsons. Traded original 1st for an early 2nd and to pick up a 3rd.
14. Micah Parsons LB, Penn State
35. Kadarius Toney WR, Florida
96. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
136. Ben Cleveland IOL, Georgia
144. Jonathon Cooper EDGE, Ohio State
252. Mustafa Johnson IDL, Colorado [Reply]
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Traded 2nd & 3rd to move up in the 1st for Parsons. Traded original 1st for an early 2nd and to pick up a 3rd.
14. Micah Parsons LB, Penn State
35. Kadarius Toney WR, Florida
96. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
136. Ben Cleveland IOL, Georgia
144. Jonathon Cooper EDGE, Ohio State
252. Mustafa Johnson IDL, Colorado
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
If they're going to trade up into the top 15, I can't see them doing it for Parsons. It's so expensive.
In general, IMO, it only makes sense for one of the truly elite positions:
QB
WR
DE
OT
CB
There's not much they could do that would make me question their decision, but moving up to take Parsons would.
The thing is, I traded up to 16 and none of the elite prospects at OT or WR were available. I could have taken someone like Patrick Surtain but other than that, there wasn't much there other than Parsons.
One more reason why I think they're much better off staying put at 31 or even trading down, not up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The thing is, I traded up to 16 and none of the elite prospects at OT or WR were available. I could have taken someone like Patrick Surtain but other than that, there wasn't much there other than Parsons.
One more reason why I think they're much better off staying put at 31 or even trading down, not up.
I was reading alot more into this the other night. The argument with trading down lies with the AV model and suggests teams trade down no more than 5 picks and not to trade up. It's kind of interesting, to be honest.
My memory seems to indicate the opposite, but I suppose over all trades in all rounds over 20, 30, 40 years, the AV argument holds. Obviously, more darts = more bullseyes.
It seems like every time a team trades down, especially early, they come out the losers much more often than not. [Reply]
36. (Trade down for 36 and 83) Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami.
This assumes I like his medical report. Taking a risk but it just fills what they need right away so we’ll. If his medicals are still worrisome, Ronnie Perkins slides in here.
63. Brevin Jordan, Te, Miami. The Chiefs 12 personnel gets an immediate upgrade here and also gets ramped up in usage in 21 as a result.
83. James Hudson, T, Cincinnati. I start planning for a post-Eric Fisher world and get a high-upside T who may also be able to sub for Eric Fisher from Day 1. I don’t love the idea of moving guys around, but if Fisher comes back strong, Hudson could slide in to LG and upgrade that spot while waiting to take over T full time in 22.
98. (Trade back 2 spots for 98 and 133). Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri. I know, I know. Homer pick. But seeing someone I respect like Brett Kollman gush over him re-affirmed my belief he can be a real NFL star. Gillespie is a strong open field tackler who also has good tape against TEs (held Kyle Pitts to one catch for six yards). He gives KC a lot more juice, speed, and coverage ability in Sorenson’s role.
133. Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas. This is a versatile CB who fits KC’s outside corner profile.
144. Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State. I wait to take my X of the future and get a high-upside guy. Stock is down after a rough 2021 (bad situation) but his size/speed profile is DK Metcalf-lite. He may not start right away, but that’s OK getting him this late. Has the potential to become an elite threat in Years 2+.
256. Kayode Awosika, OL, Buffalo. Just a late-round flyer, but this small-school product has some real physical skill and was a nasty run blocker at T in college. Could be interesting if you put him inside.
All-in-all, I would be excited about this haul. Nice blend of “now” contributors at key spots (DE, S), high upside for the future (WR, OT) and an upgrade at a key supporting position (TE).
In FA, I’d need to handle C (either by retaining Reiter or signing another FA), supplement LB (likely with a SLB bandaid) and WR (someone I can plug at the X for a year while I see how Terry develops) but those are do-able. With Hudson, I likely also want a swing tackle I can roll with in case he isn’t ready to handle LT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
My latest, from PFN. I really like this:
36. (Trade down for 36 and 83) Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami.
This assumes I like his medical report. Taking a risk but it just fills what they need right away so we’ll. If his medicals are still worrisome, Ronnie Perkins slides in here.
63. Brevin Jordan, Te, Miami. The Chiefs 12 personnel gets an immediate upgrade here and also gets ramped up in usage in 21 as a result.
83. James Hudson, T, Cincinnati. I start planning for a post-Eric Fisher world and get a high-upside T who may also be able to sub for Eric Fisher from Day 1. I don’t love the idea of moving guys around, but if Fisher comes back strong, Hudson could slide in to LG and upgrade that spot while waiting to take over T full time in 22.
98. (Trade back 2 spots for 98 and 133). Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri. I know, I know. Homer pick. But seeing someone I respect like Brett Kollman gush over him re-affirmed my belief he can be a real NFL star. Gillespie is a strong open field tackler who also has good tape against TEs (held Kyle Pitts to one catch for six yards). He gives KC a lot more juice, speed, and coverage ability in Sorenson’s role.
133. Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas. This is a versatile CB who fits KC’s outside corner profile.
144. Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State. I wait to take my X of the future and get a high-upside guy. Stock is down after a rough 2021 (bad situation) but his size/speed profile is DK Metcalf-lite. He may not start right away, but that’s OK getting him this late. Has the potential to become an elite threat in Years 2+.
256. Kayode Awosika, OL, Buffalo. Just a late-round flyer, but this small-school product has some real physical skill and was a nasty run blocker at T in college. Could be interesting if you put him inside.
All-in-all, I would be excited about this haul. Nice blend of “now” contributors at key spots (DE, S), high upside for the future (WR, OT) and an upgrade at a key supporting position (TE).
In FA, I’d need to handle C (either by retaining Reiter or signing another FA), supplement LB (likely with a SLB bandaid) and WR (someone I can plug at the X for a year while I see how Terry develops) but those are do-able. With Hudson, I likely also want a swing tackle I can roll with in case he isn’t ready to handle LT.
With you on Terry. I like him as a guy to target later in the draft. Does more for me than Dyami who people are pushing as high as round 2. [Reply]
