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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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TLO 08:26 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by 007:
I don't understand our governor's logic at all. Salons and gyms can open but bars and taverns cannot.
Unsure of where you live, but St Joe opened bars today. I'm not sure if Missouri has said "no bars open", but St Joe gives 0 fucks.
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petegz28 08:26 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by Delano:
A self-aware man would leave this thread after this slaying, but I'm sure Pete will continue reposting his facebook feed and spewing politically motivated talking points.
Only for your obvious viewing entertainment.
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eDave 08:27 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
:-) Even before this pandemic when LA County decided to go into never ending lockdown mode, how many businesses were relocating out of LA and out of California?
Let's see if Elon makes good on his threat.
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petegz28 08:28 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by Fish:
You don't know it was intentional. He also had COVID, so it's understandable there could be a mistake.
Sure seems rather intentional when the Coroner has to go on the record stating that the State is mischaracterizing the cause of death but whatever.
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petegz28 08:28 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Let's see if Elon makes good on his threat.
Shit! Even if he did it would take him years to move all that.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 08:29 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Yes or no... has Georgia proven the panic/hysteria people such as yourself wrong by showing declines in all key metrics in the two weeks since they re-opened their economy?

Meanwhile, guess which state has shown an increase in the rate of new cases during that same time-frame? The lockdown paradise known as California.

Also over 50% of Sweden’s deaths are in nursing homes... i.e. the same problem that lockdown countries including the US, UK and Italy have experienced.
So, are none of Norway and Finland's deaths in nursing homes? If you halved Sweden's death rate it would still be over four and three times higher than those respective countries.

Again, answer the question: if lockdowns don't matter, why did New York's caseload drop by 80%?

Regarding your Georgia claim:



That's the actual rolling average.

"Georgia reopened April 24 with Phase One. Since reopening, the state has seen a steady increase in cases."
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007 08:29 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Unsure of where you live, but St Joe opened bars today. I'm not sure if Missouri has said "no bars open", but St Joe gives 0 fucks.
Kansas
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TLO 08:30 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by 007:
Kansas
Ah.
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petegz28 08:30 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
So, are none of Norway and Finland's deaths in nursing homes? If you halved Sweden's death rate it would still be over four and three times higher than those respective countries.

Again, answer the question: if lockdowns don't matter, why did New York's caseload drop by 80%?

Regarding your Georgia claim:



That's the actual rolling average.

"Georgia reopened April 24 with Phase One. Since reopening, the state has seen a steady increase in cases."
Steady increase??? Yeah, no. It's rather flat to be honest. And I have to ask, are they testing more?
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petegz28 08:32 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by 007:
I don't understand our governor's logic at all. Salons and gyms can open but bars and taverns cannot.
I didn't think salons and gyms were open yet?
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007 08:32 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I didn't think salons and gyms were open yet?
On Monday
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FloridaMan88 08:32 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Why don't you tell us? You seem to be the man with all of the answers.
Enjoy...

Link: https://spectrumlocationsolutions.com/california/

Originally Posted by :
“A study by business relocation consultant Joe Vranich estimates that … about 13,000 companies have left the state since 2008. Over the last decade, $76.7 billion in capital and 275,000 jobs have moved out of the state.” – Wall Street Journal.

California’s Disinvestment Events by the Numbers

The ten California counties losing the most businesses were Los Angeles in the top spot, followed by Orange, Santa Clara, San Francisco, San Diego, Alameda, San Mateo, Ventura, San Bernardino and Sacramento.

More headquarters leave California than any other type of facility and more manufacturers than any other industry.

During the study period, $76.7 billion in capital was diverted out of California along with 275,000 Jobs – and companies acquired at least 133 million square feet of space elsewhere. All such findings are understated because such information often went unreported in source materials.
Let’s hear your thoughts on how LA and California’s draconian/never ending lockdown measures will stop this exodus of businesses from your crumbling state.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 08:34 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Steady increase??? Yeah, no. It's rather flat to be honest.
It increases up to April 20th, begins decreasing, restrictions are lifted while cases have decreased for a few days (but not the 14 recommended by the CDC) and then begins a slow ascent again.
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petegz28 08:34 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by 007:
On Monday
Planet Fitness and the place my Wife goes to get her nails done are closed. Maybe you are talking KS as a whole, I am talking JoCo.
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007 08:35 PM 05-14-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Planet Fitness and the place my Wife goes to get her nails done are closed. Maybe you are talking KS as a whole, I am talking JoCo.
No. They open in Kansas this Monday. Yet bars and taverns can't. They were all supposed to open and she changed it today.
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