Originally Posted by Jerm:
If you think Worthy is just "track speed" you have no clue what you're talking about...
He's a weapon...one you can add to a room where he's not expected to be a 1 and use him in a variety of ways and watch him be lethal.
Speed kills in this league, I'll take all of it I can get...can never have enough.
I didn't say he was only track speed fast, cool your jets little fella, I just was referring to the other potential options that were listed at wr in the op. You wouldn't rather have his teammate AD Mitchell (who is also fast as hell) or Brian Thomas (also fast) over a guy that weighs 165 lbs? I'm not even sold on wr in the first, I just stated Worthy wouldn't be my choice if we go that route [Reply]
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Seems like the consensus or desire here is for a WR. I just don’t get it. We’ve won two superbowls with limitations at WR. We saw what happened in the superbowl when our line was hurt against the bucs. We need a LT. That should be goal #1 in this draft. Resign smith on a one year deal and let him compete with a rookie LT. Move Wanya inside. This seems obvious to me?
I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.
There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.
To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.
I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…
Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Willie Lanier:
I didn't say he was only track speed fast, cool your jets little fella, I just was referring to the other potential options that were listed at wr in the op. You wouldn't rather have his teammate AD Mitchell (who is also fast as hell) or Brian Thomas (also fast) over a guy that weighs 165 lbs? I'm not even sold on wr in the first, I just stated Worthy wouldn't be my choice if we go that route
I like AD Mitchell just fine...I'd love to have Brian Thomas too but I don't see that as feasible unless you move up, which for the record I'd be ok with too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
We can find a WR as well as a starting LT in rd 2 so , since both positions are deep this year I say we resign Donovan Smith , get a WR at 32 and go from there.
Xavier Worthy or Xavier Leggett sound good to me
If Joe Alt would just smoke one joint and post the pic on twitter , he could follow in his Dads footsteps as a Chief.
I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early. [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early.
Getting one at 32 isn't really feasible either...
You take one there you better be sure he's a franchise guy.
The talent at WR is too great to pass on just on a chance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early.
Yeah , well, Roosevelt Brown was a Tackle drafted in the 27th round of the 1953 draft and was inducted into the Hall of fame. :-)
How does the '24 class of LT's compare to the '25 class of LT's?
Curious if this should be the year for the big splash move up, or next year.
My assumption is this year since WR is our other biggest hole and is so deep, combined with the fact that there are a ton of QB's & WR's going in the first round this year, which could slide LT talent down the board a bit into a more manageable trade up range. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dante84:
How does the '24 class of LT's compare to the '25 class of LT's?
Curious if this should be the year for the big splash move up, or next year.
My assumption is this year since WR is our other biggest hole and is so deep, combined with the fact that there are a ton of QB's & WR's going in the first round this year, which could slide LT talent down the board a bit into a more manageable trade up range.
Don't hold me to this but I'd guess right now (pending players developing) that 2025 is likely not as deep of a class but there might be as many as 4 1st round LT prospects (lacking the plethora of RTs)...
Probably R1
Kelvin Banks, Texas
Josh Simmons, Ohio State
Anthony Belton, N.C. State
Will Campbell, LSU (Needs to improve in pass pro)
Josh Conerly, Jr., Oregon (Likely needs move to guard but we'll see how he develops in pass pro this year)
Probably R2-3
Jalen Travis, Princeton (this year's Amegadjie)
Jack Nelson, Wisconsin (probably needs to kick to RT)
Turner Corcoran, Nebraska [Reply]
I don’t think you’ll have to go into the teens. If that’s the case, bpa, but I’m guessing one of the top 6 LT prospects could be drafted 20-25. My favorite is Mims but if he goes early, then Fautana. If Fautana is gone, then Guyton. I think LT is worth taking a risk on one of those guys 20-25. I’m guessing one of those 3 will be available in that range.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.
There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.
To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.
I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…
Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need.
Fellas, I keep watching the mock drafts, and it sure looks like it's a real possibility that either Mitchell or Worthy are there at #32. I think you pull the trigger on either; both would have a significant if slightly different role here and would complement Rice and Kelce. If you do that and snag Sumaitiananana or Paul at #64 I'd be feeling pretty good. Re-sign Smith for a year and roll. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Fellas, I keep watching the mock drafts, and it sure looks like it's a real possibility that either Mitchell or Worthy are there at #32. I think you pull the trigger on either; both would have a significant if slightly different role here and would complement Rice and Kelce. If you do that and snag Sumaitiananana or Paul at #64 I'd be feeling pretty good. Re-sign Smith for a year and roll.
Yea, I'm all-in on the Texas WRs at this point. Very likely either one would be BPA for me. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.
There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.
To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.
I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…
Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need.
This is pretty much my take. If we don't get someone in FA then I'm probably going to expect, and accept, us moving up a fair bit and taking a LT. The reason it's not my preferred approach is I think the LT class isn't as good as the WR one, and there's a higher chance we more up for a developmental LT who's ultimately a dud, and then also missing out on impactful WRs even with the depth at that position, especially if we used our 2nd to go up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Added Kool-Aid post Sneed trade because even though I don't think they'd go CB in the 1st, it would just be a perfect combination of need, value, and fit.
I would add Cooper DeJeanthe DB from Iowa.
He's a Swiss army knife. Smart. If you want to replace what you had with Sneed and McDuffie - you draft Cooper. Plus he gives you an elite kick returner. [Reply]
