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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Let's talk WRs
OldSchool 02:08 AM 09-23-2014
My only issue with White is that he doesn't appear to have great speed, takes him longer than you would want to eat up a DB's cushion and that's going to make it harder for him to get open at the NFL level.


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OldSchool 10:54 PM 09-25-2014
Some tidbits on Cooper:

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An AFC talent evaluator said Alabama junior WR Amari Cooper is on the same level of prospect as former top-10 draft picks Sammie Watkins, Mike Evans, Justin Blackmon and A.J. Green.
"I think he's that level player," an AFC talent evaluator said. "He has some qualities of those guys you mentioned, but he's not the horse Julio [Jones] is; he just doesn't have that thoroughbred quality to him. But I like him. Smooth, long glider who can go up and pluck it." At 6-feet-1 and 210 pounds, Cooper compares physically to Watkins. "That's the closest comparison, at least among the recent guys," the evaluator said. "['Bama doesn't] use him quite as creatively as Clemson did with Sammy, but they can do some of the same things."
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NFL media analyst Daniel Jeremiah believes Alabama junior WR Amari Cooper is better than Sammy Watkins.
"I had Amari Cooper ahead of Sammy Watkins and Marquise Lee (last year). The way (Cooper) played last year, being a little bit nicked up, that probably raised eyebrows, having him over Sammy Watkins," Jeremiah said. "But what I've seen from him now, I do, I think he's a better football player just all-around, just polished in everything, as a route runner, I think he's a little bit ahead of Sammy." Buffalo's Watkins, of course, was the No. 4 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. Cooper is No. 1 in the NCAA in both receptions (43) and receiving yards (655). "He looks like a No. 1 receiver should look," Bucky Brooks said. "He can run all the intermediate routes, he can get vertical, he can catch and run, he's physical, he's a willing blocker. He's playing in a pro-style offense so it shouldn't really be a big transition for him to go to the National Football League."
How pissed would you guys be if we passed on Cooper and took a DL/OL/OLB player instead?
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MahiMike 10:05 AM 02-25-2015
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
How pissed would you guys be if we passed on Cooper and took a DL/OL/OLB player instead?
Very. I hope the Kevin White hype continues and Cooper falls to 10. We could jump up that high and get the next Marvin Harrison.
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OldSchool 01:16 AM 10-05-2014
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West Virginia senior WR Kevin White caught six passes for 132 yards and a touchdown in the school's 33-14 win over Kansas.
White's touchdown catch was a result of a 63 yard play. The former JUCO product has really emerged this season, dominating at the catch point and winning on comebacks. He could be a top 50 selection.
I don't think that White has had a single game under 100 yards this season. He has also had 1 TD reception in each of them except for his game against Towsen where he caught 10 balls for 101 yards in a game where they won by a score of 54-0.

Cooper has also had a monster season so far, though he was under 100 yards for the first time against Ole Miss.

Sammie Coates finally showed up in the stats column.

4 catches for 144 yards and 1 TD. He only has 9 catches on this season and isn't Auburn's high volume receiver right now.

His teammate, Duke Williams, only had 2 catches for 28 yards against LSU. He has more production on the season though, 25 catches total, 395 yards, with 3 TDs.
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OldSchool 01:24 AM 10-05-2014
If you wanted a replacement for Bowe as a guy who can move the sticks consistently and be trusts in the redzone, with just enough speed to threaten deep, Kevin White is probably your guy, just judging from what I've seen so far this season.

He has more speed than Jaelen Strong and Louisville's Parker I think. But he's just as good, actually maybe a little better, than either of those guys are at high-pointing and coming down with the ball in traffic. I've also seen White create separation much more consistently as well. Strong always seems to have someone sticking close to him and can't seem to consistently shake loose of his defender.

Other guys to keep your eyes on in that regard is Duke Williams from Auburn, Austin Hill from Arizona, Deontay Greenberry from Houston, and Kasen Williams from Washington.

White is the best of the bunch though, from what I've seen this year.

As for a WR that perfectly fits Reid's system, that has to be Cooper by far.
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Direckshun 01:30 AM 10-05-2014
Give some props, OldSchool, for Coates' performance yesterday.

C'mon. Let's hear it.
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OldSchool 10-05-2014, 02:39 AM
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OldSchool 02:41 AM 10-05-2014
He had a pair of really nice grabs down field, one went for a TD.

That was a nice grab with the DB, I believe it was Jalen Collins, trying to go over the top and deflect it and another DB, don't remember his number, bracketing underneath, Coates showed great concentration and reeled it in, kept his balance and walked into the endzone.

Second big catch was also with the DB draped on his back, used his body like Bowe would and shielded him out for the completion.

It was nice to see Coates put those on tape against DBs who are going to be pros at the next level.
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OldSchool 11:50 PM 10-05-2014
Here's a kid that I don't really like, and it's not just because he's a Furd.

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Stanford junior WR Ty Montgomery "dropped at least three passes while playing wide receiver and wasn't able to beat the Irish to the perimeter when running out of the backfield" on Saturday against Notre Dame, wrote CBS Sports' Rob Rang.
Montgomery had four catches for 12 yards and 14 yards on five rushing attempts. "Footballs landing on the grass after bouncing off his chest plate were the most obvious mistakes for Montgomery," Rang wrote. "Scouts will notice other errors, however, including shoddy route-running that contributed to an interception on the first snap of the fourth quarter." Stanford QB Kevin Hogan seemed to lose faith in Montgomery as the game went on. Former NFL GM Phil Savage believes Montgomery will be selected in the first round, but we'll need to see a lot of improvement before we buy that.
He is way too inconsistent with his hands. He's Ted Ginn/DHB all over again. Height/weight/speed guy who can run fast but is going to be a poor receiver in the NFL.
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Gino-Bartali 11:02 AM 10-06-2014
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
Here's a kid that I don't really like, and it's not just because he's a Furd.



He is way too inconsistent with his hands. He's Ted Ginn/DHB all over again. Height/weight/speed guy who can run fast but is going to be a poor receiver in the NFL.
He was terrible against ND. His lack of effort cost an interception on a contested catch against Cole Luke and although he has a good straight-line speed, he is slow in his breaks and does not change direction fluidly.
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the Talking Can 06:47 AM 10-06-2014
at this point, if we're anywhere near Amari Cooper in the draft, we should use a pick to go get him
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OldSchool 10:32 AM 10-06-2014
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at this point, if we're anywhere near Amari Cooper in the draft, we should use a pick to go get him
Agreed, he'd be a perfect fit for Reid's system. However, it might require way too much to move up for him, and we have too many holes on the roster to lose a bunch of picks for 1 player.
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kc79 07:13 AM 10-06-2014
I like Goodley from Baylor
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kccrow 10:43 PM 10-06-2014
Amari Cooper is untouchable unless KC drafts in the top 5.
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OldSchool 11:10 PM 10-06-2014
Kevin White is the ticket.
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