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Nzoner's Game Room>WR Zay Jones scheduled to visit the Chiefs on Thursday [signed with Arizona]
Why Not? 09:06 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Do the the same CP posters in the Rice thread that were telling people nbd you're overreacting wanna tell Veach?
Veach isn't a random internet Jabroni. He takes action before problems become problems. See Hardman, Mecole. Even though he didn't become some all world guy, Veach didn't wait to see if Tyreek was gonna be able to play or not. He took action. Same thing here.....assuming we sign Zay. If not, he is a broke dick JAG who will suck anywhere else, of course.
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BigRedChief 09:59 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
Veach isn't a random internet Jabroni. He takes action before problems become problems. See Hardman, Mecole. Even though he didn't become some all world guy, Veach didn't wait to see if Tyreek was gonna be able to play or not. He took action. Same thing here.....assuming we sign Zay. If not, he is a broke dick JAG who will suck anywhere else, of course.
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.
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staylor26 10:03 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.
:-)

How are you supposed to account for basically your entire OL falling apart due to injuries?

There's no plan for that.
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smithandrew051 07:37 AM 05-09-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
:-)

How are you supposed to account for basically your entire OL falling apart due to injuries?

There's no plan for that.
Mitchell Schwartz was the most dependable guy on the team until his back injury that year.

I don’t remember Fisher missing any time until his Achilles injury.

Plus, we had 2 Covid opt outs.

Blaming Veach for that is really something.
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Kman34 05:34 AM 05-09-2024
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.
WTF? Everyone got hurt..
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tredadda 07:32 AM 05-09-2024
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
we all saw the problems with the O-Line all year and in the preseason etc. Veach didn't do shit about it until
Mahomes running for his life cost us a SB. But, now he does take action before it costs us SB’s.
So essentially you are saying that Veach should have somehow knew that:

1. LDT would opt out for the season due to Covid
2. Schwartz, their All Pro RT would miss the second half of the season due to back issues that caused him to retire.
3. Fisher would blow out his Achille's near the end of the AFCCG.

Not saying that KC would have won the SB without the Fisher injury, but of all the line players that did not play in the SB, Fisher's was easily the most crushing. Remmers was serviceable at RT. but a disaster at LT.
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Dunerdr 07:33 AM 05-09-2024
Originally Posted by tredadda:
So essentially you are saying that Veach should have somehow knew that:

1. LDT would opt out for the season due to Covid
2. Schwartz, their All Pro RT would miss the second half of the season due to back issues that caused him to retire.
3. Fisher would blow out his Achille's near the end of the AFCCG.

Not saying that KC would have won the SB without the Fisher injury, but of all the line players that did not play in the SB, Fisher's was easily the most crushing. Remmers was serviceable at RT. but a disaster at LT.
Yes he is saying that a good GM would know.
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The Franchise 08:13 PM 05-08-2024
Better than Moore.
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staylor26 08:18 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Better than Moore.
And Toney and Watson.
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BWillie 08:18 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Better than Moore.
You don't say?
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Megatron96 08:20 PM 05-08-2024
Found a couple scouting reports on Zay Jones that might be illuminating. Understanding of course that these were written prior to his being drafted:
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zay-jo...b-837ea00d253e
hhttps://www.playerprofiler.com/article/zay-jones-advanced-stats-metrics-nfl-draft-profile/ttp://


Sounds like another Richie James type.
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LagunaSWana 08:18 AM 05-09-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Found a couple scouting reports on Zay Jones that might be illuminating. Understanding of course that these were written prior to his being drafted:
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zay-jo...b-837ea00d253e
hhttps://www.playerprofiler.com/article/zay-jones-advanced-stats-metrics-nfl-draft-profile/ttp://


Sounds like another Richie James type.
Is he more Richie James than Richie James was Richie James?
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Couch-Potato 08:21 PM 05-08-2024
"Jones had 158 receptions for 1,746 yards and eight touchdowns in the 2016 season. In this NFL Draft class there is no better receiver in terms of yards after the catch. As a freshman he caught 63 passes. As a sophomore he had 81 receptions and as a junior he hauled in 98 receptions.

The Pirates QB position has been a revolving door over the past 3 seasons, with 6 QB’s logging starts at one point or another. Zay Jones didn’t let it affect his play, as he produces with all of them. His ability to get open on short and intermediate routes make him a reliable safety net for anyone behind center.

The most important thing to note about his game is that he doesn’t drop balls. I counted one single clean drop out of all the games I watched. He also has experience running a variety of routes well. Screens, reverses and slants made up the majority of his route tree, making him a good fit for a West Coast offense."

Ok, sounds like a perfect Rice replacement until he returns.
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Megatron96 08:22 PM 05-08-2024
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Jones had 158 receptions for 1,746 yards and eight touchdowns in the 2016 season. In this NFL Draft class there is no better receiver in terms of yards after the catch. As a freshman he caught 63 passes. As a sophomore he had 81 receptions and as a junior he hauled in 98 receptions.

The Pirates QB position has been a revolving door over the past 3 seasons, with 6 QB’s logging starts at one point or another. Zay Jones didn’t let it affect his play, as he produces with all of them. His ability to get open on short and intermediate routes make him a reliable safety net for anyone behind center.

The most important thing to note about his game is that he doesn’t drop balls. I counted one single clean drop out of all the games I watched. He also has experience running a variety of routes well. Screens, reverses and slants made up the majority of his route tree, making him a good fit for a West Coast offense.

Ok, sounds like a perfect Rice replacement until he returns.


Pirates? Is this guy a pitcher or a catcher? err, receiver, I mean . . .
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Dark Horse 08:23 PM 05-08-2024
I picture Veach as a Wild West gunslinger strutting up and kicking in the saloon door and shouting I’m looking for the dead son of a bitch that shot my brother.

Of course since his powder got wet in a downpour the night before he stopped at the local general store and bought some new ammo
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