Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, you'd have to June 1 him and then move some of Thuney's money around to free up some space prior to the cap compliance deadline. But since you're keeping Thuney next year anyway, it really doesn't matter. There's no harm, no foul there.
Just keep focused on the $8 million we're paying him. The rest are just shell games.
That's where people lost the thread a few nights ago.
I'm ignorant on all of this. When can Frank Clark go byebye and how much will it cost?
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, you'd have to June 1 him and then move some of Thuney's money around to free up some space prior to the cap compliance deadline. But since you're keeping Thuney next year anyway, it really doesn't matter. There's no harm, no foul there.
Just keep focused on the $8 million we're paying him. The rest are just shell games.
That's where people lost the thread a few nights ago.
I don't know....I think most of us were arguing two different things. I think most, including myself, were only focusing and cared about 2022 and Clark only costing us only $1.2M FOR 2022! Yes its kicking the can down the road but it was always going to be kicked down the road and about a 90% chance of a restructure like this OR a June 1st cut.
You like to look at the big picture which I is the GM in you, I'm focusing on 2022 knowing a lot can happen with other restructures/cuts/trades/Cap increase more than teams think because of TV contracts....So Veach can find or figure out that extra dead money he know gains because maybe Veach believes next years cap can handle that extra dead money a lot better than trying to figure out how to get a MUCH needed DE for less than $1.2M THIS YEAR. [Reply]
Finding a bad DE who costs you less than what Frank will cost this year and next year shouldn't be that hard. I really hate the idea of keeping bad players just because they're cheap and we need bodies. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Still a lot of 1-year stopgap guys for DL..
Jadeveon Clowney, Calais Campbell, Melvin Ingram, Akiem Hicks, Matt Ioannidis, Sheldon Richardson, Quinton Jefferson, Johnathan Hankins, Trey Flowers, Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes
Potential longer-term guys with change of scenery..
Justin Jones, Derek Barnett, Shy Tuttle, Maurice Hurst, Dante Fowler, Arden Key, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Takk McKinley
Originally Posted by -King-:
Finding a bad DE who costs you less than what Frank will cost this year and next year shouldn't be that hard. I really hate the idea of keeping bad players just because they're cheap and we need bodies.
That works out fine if you have more than 2 DEs on your roster. If we had another capable starting DE….then Clark is probably gone. But we don’t. [Reply]
Looking through the thread and I didn't see it mentioned, but I could have missed it: is there a time deadline to have Patrick's restructure into the league office by, like 4 pm eastern -- seems to be a pretty common time -- or does it have to be in by midnight eastern? [Reply]
4.55 million signing bonus plus $3.725 million base for $8.275 million in guarantees (so, y'know, exactly what I was saying) PLUS another $75K in per game bonuses.
So if the dude just goes out there and gives us 15 games of largely ineffective ball has he's likely to do, he's gonna take home about $9.4 million for it.
Yeah - totally necessary. Something that absolutely had to be done.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He’s actually quite good when he tries. He just got paid and acted lazy. If he’s here on a contract year we’ll get the best version
Last season WAS a contract year.
Dude just sucked ass and went from a $20 million base to $8.2+incentives.
Why should we expect any different? He didn't seem to mind playing poorly enough last season to take an $11+ million haircut. Hell, he could end up out of the league altogether and not lose $11 million in 2023 over what he'll make in 2022.