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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KcMizzou 09:41 PM 10-04-2011
Random post by a random LSU fan, but still...

Originally Posted by :
Welcome Welcome Welcome to the S E C !

Been on the road a bit and heard the reports from your Admin meeting today.

I think Mizzou will be a great fit and fully welcome you to the conference.

Just a side not reading a bit of this board, ignore the nancies in your fan base that are crying about your competitiveness in the SEC.

Mizzou is an underachieving program given its potential and resources. The powers in your OLD conference liked you underachieving and kept you under a boot, a Texas boot.

You took your first and hardest step away from "that". A chance to realize your potential with equitable and fair partners. Think about the SEC chant, and what that really signifies for a while. There is NO conference like that in this country. You are part of that now.

Forge your new destiny Tigers and leave the baggage on a doorstep in Austin. Realize your potential and most importantly embrace your new family. A family that will "get your back" when needed.

That will be the last time I have a nice thing to say about Mizzou, but bet your ass, if someone outside the family has something to say, you have 13 brothers to stand by you now.

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KCrockaholic 09:45 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
Random post by a random LSU fan, but still...
I like that guy.
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kcfan82 09:46 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by NewChief:
Impressive (though I think that was his total for the whole game, not just the 2nd half, unless he only had 8 years in the first half, since his game total was 268).

But yes, I'm aware that B1G has teams who can put up points... unfortunately, I was not at one of their games on Saturday. Even more unfortunately, my team was involved in an important shoot out and come from behind victory at the same time.

We still had an awesome time with friends and family in Bloomington, though.
I get your point, and I'm up in the air as to whether or not Mizzou should leave the Big 12.

Obviously KC is going to get screwed over this ordeal and losing the tournament, and I have no idea why their lawmakers haven't stepped in and pointed that out.

Oh well, I've seen weirder things happen in that state.
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Discuss Thrower 09:48 PM 10-04-2011
Am I wrong in thinking there still is a lot of uncertainty even with the MU BoC meeting? Or will that be assuaged tomorrow after SEC meets?
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Reaper16 09:51 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by kcfan82:

Obviously KC is going to get screwed over this ordeal and losing the tournament, and I have no idea why their lawmakers haven't stepped in and pointed that out.
This is all just a powerplay from St. Louis. Now KC is the city in MO that is far away from the rest of the conference. STL always outbargians and outmaneuvers KC in Jefferson City, so why should college athletics be any different?
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ChiefsCountry 09:55 PM 10-04-2011
Kansas City needs to pull the MVC tournament out of St. Louis.
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WilliamTheIrish 09:55 PM 10-04-2011
So there has been a decision to make decision?

Luckily, I'm moving to Fresno so I'll already be in the MWC.
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kcfan82 09:57 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Reaper16:
This is all just a powerplay from St. Louis. Now KC is the city in MO that is far away from the rest of the conference. STL always outbargians and outmaneuvers KC in Jefferson City, so why should college athletics be any different?
That's a good point, St. Louis doesn't have anything to lose here.

Maybe this is a good time to reiterate how much I hate those *ssholes.
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KcMizzou 09:58 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Am I wrong in thinking there still is a lot of uncertainty even with the MU BoC meeting? Or will that be assuaged tomorrow after SEC meets?
I think we're gone now. Even if Texas gave in on all of Mizzou's demands, they really can't go back now. The fan base wanted this, and they're fired up about it.

If you want to question Mizzou's leverage in all this, I'd say it was quadrupled as the 4th team to possibly leave the conference. If we do stay, it'll be on our terms, and it'll be good for everyone (but Texas).

I really can't see that happening though.
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Crush 10:05 PM 10-04-2011
Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis is now the new Big XII Chairman.
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kcfan82 10:09 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
I think we're gone now. Even if Texas gave in on all of Mizzou's demands, they really can't go back now. The fan base wanted this, and they're fired up about it.

If you want to question Mizzou's leverage in all this, I'd say it was quadrupled as the 4th team to possibly leave the conference. If we do stay, it'll be on our terms, and it'll be good for everyone (but Texas).

I really can't see that happening though.
What's left to concede outside of HS sports on the LHN?

I believe Mizzou has a PPV game this weekend so third tier rights shouldn't be an issue.
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KcMizzou 10:12 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by kcfan82:
What's left to concede outside of HS sports on the LHN?

I believe Mizzou has a PPV game this weekend so third tier rights shouldn't be an issue.
This weekend is on ABC @ K-State. You're thinking of next week. Homecoming vs. ISU.
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kcfan82 10:14 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
This weekend is on ABC @ K-State. You're thinking of next week. Homecoming vs. ISU.
My fault.....

I just heard a blurb about Missouri having a PPV game from St. John on 810 this morning.
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Setsuna 10:20 PM 10-04-2011
SEC is best so f'ck the rest. Welcome Mizzou! Big XII is for b*tches.
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KChiefs1 10:28 PM 10-04-2011
Originally Posted by kcfan82:
My fault.....

I just heard a blurb about Missouri having a PPV game from St. John on 810 this morning.
MU turned down tv for the Homecoming because they like the 1pm kickoff.
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