Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
That has to be a typo, no?
1 year $1.5m? I would pay that for him even if I knew for a fact that he’d be the exact same player this year as last AND was going to miss half the season. That is peanuts for probably the best gadget guy in the NFL.
And yet they didn’t. From the looks of Mecole’s presser they didn’t even offer him a contract to come back.
This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole..
I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: "He's dependable. He's going to run the right route and he's going to catch the ball.''
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
That has to be a typo, no?
1 year $1.5m? I would pay that for him even if I knew for a fact that he’d be the exact same player this year as last AND was going to miss half the season. That is peanuts for probably the best gadget guy in the NFL.
He's a speed guy. No disrespect to Hardman but Chiefs probably feel they can draft a WR who can do what he does and might have more upside.
We will see if they are right. A little risky but Veach/Reid have earned our trust.
You also have to consider that having Mahomes makes it easier to take some chances w these types of things. [Reply]
His base salary is ~1mm. He then gets a 3mm signing bonus. Then there are the incentives.
Why are you guys so desperate to jump on Hardman and call him trash? The guy was nothing but a good member of our team. Such clownish behavior. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
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No one wants to believe that. Three years ago much of CP decided Hardman couldn't run any routes, that he has bad hands, couldn't get in sync with Pat, and whatever other nonsense the detractors invented.
Didn't matter that you could watch any Chiefs highlight reel and literally watch Hardman track the ball well and make good catches deep downfield. Over and over.
Didn't matter last season when he repeatedly ran solid routes (not great ones, but good enough) and not only got himself open in a traditional WR route, but made some great grabs under duress with DBs draped all over him.
Didn't matter when he showed that he could find the soft spot in a zone fairly consistently, or improv when Pat scrambled and find s soft spot extemporaneously. And make tough catches as he was getting crushed by defenders.
Hardman's fate was decided in 2020 as far as CP was concerned. "He's just a jet-sweep gadget player!!!"
He had to go elsewhere to change that narrative.
Nah it was decided when the coaches demoted him from #2 WR last year and made him a gadget guy themselves and he had the 2nd lowest yards before catch in the league. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole..
I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: "He's dependable. He's going to run the right route and he's going to catch the ball.''
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
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No one wants to believe that. Three years ago much of CP decided Hardman couldn't run any routes, that he has bad hands, couldn't get in sync with Pat, and whatever other nonsense the detractors invented.
Didn't matter that you could watch any Chiefs highlight reel and literally watch Hardman track the ball well and make good catches deep downfield. Over and over.
Didn't matter last season when he repeatedly ran solid routes (not great ones, but good enough) and not only got himself open in a traditional WR route, but made some great grabs under duress with DBs draped all over him.
Didn't matter when he showed that he could find the soft spot in a zone fairly consistently, or improv when Pat scrambled and find s soft spot extemporaneously. And make tough catches as he was getting crushed by defenders.
Hardman's fate was decided in 2020 as far as CP was concerned. "He's just a jet-sweep gadget player!!!"
He had to go elsewhere to change that narrative.
If everything you said is true I imagine that would be a valuable player that KC would have made a significant effort to keep… [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The results from 2022 season show that so far he’s cut from the same cloth as Hardman.
man what? Rookies make mistakes. Hardman never got better about them and almost refused to address it and if you follow him on social media there's practically zero brain activity going on at most times.
Saying Skyy is cut from the same cloth is pretty ridiculous. Hell he scored a touchdown in the SB and everyone immediately blamed him for lining up wrong when it was Kelce.
Is Kelce cut from the same cloth as Mecole? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I don't think he's very bright. Hill isn't very bright either. I don't say that to insult anyone I'm just pointing out that isn't one of the strengths of either one of these gentlemen. They play a game of emotion and then transition to a money business in the off season that's about the numbers and isn't personal. But people who give their all and learn how to play a selfless team sport will take it personal. They're human.
I think Hardman wanted to be emotionless and professional and not say the wrong thing but he's just not "quick on his feet." He's not much of a communicator. If I'm right about any of this the best thing he could have done would be let his agent handle this and stay out of it. Sounds like he did or he at least wants it to sound like he did.
Not many dudes come out and admit "I gave it my all, I loved 'er, but she didn't want me." They may say she's a cheating whore or blame money issues but one person always loves the other a little more. That's just how it is. People move on - business definitely does. It's hard when you're the one in that position.
The difference is Hill has a better work ethic than just about anyone. Hardman is better known for bowling or Twitch streaming than putting in the extra work. If Hardman had Hill’s work ethic he would be a hell of a lot better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
man what? Rookies make mistakes. Hardman never got better about them and almost refused to address it and if you follow him on social media there's practically zero brain activity going on at most times.
Saying Skyy is cut from the same cloth is pretty ridiculous. Hell he scored a touchdown in the SB and everyone immediately blamed him for lining up wrong when it was Kelce.
Is Kelce cut from the same cloth as Mecole?
It’s OKChiefs. He’s a Debbie downer and an idiot. [Reply]
